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TallySaint · 09-13-2005, 04:29 PM

One more note on Los Angeles and I'll shut my pie hole. This was comment when Houston was awarded their franchise...

"The NFL was determined to put a team in the nation's second-largest television market, but when the final showdown came, L.A. was hamstrung by conflicting proposals, a lack of public money, limited city and state support and fans who didn't seem to care."

... and "Raiders owner Al Davis has long maintained LA is still his territory".

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saintswhodi · 09-13-2005, 04:29 PM

Any potential site is years away tally. There aren't too many populated areas of the country sitting there readily able to support a team. So I definitely agree with you there. As it stands now though, New Orleans seems to be years away as well. I mean before the hurricane they had like what, 1 Fortune 500 company, Entergy. If it still is a Fortune 500 company. Los Angeles and San Antonio can beat that number easily. And San Antonio has Toyota and Washington Mutual moving in. The NFL is definitely interested in LA, but IMO, their best bet is to have a new franchise altogether, or move a winning one in a small market like Indy. They can't move a small market losing team. Those people will lose interest so fast your head will spin. But the only reason the NFL wants a team in LA so bad is the advertising and tv revenues they would receive from a market that large. Remember they have a limited revenue sharing, so the more money the league makes, the more each team makes. And they are looking to expand that revenue sharing in the next agreement, as there are already numerous owners lobbying for it. LA would make it more palatable for the richer owners to accept having to share their cash with the ones who don't make as much.

Halo · 09-13-2005, 04:33 PM

lakefront, Gentilly, New Orleans East(eastover)

Actually you're talking about neighborhoods there in sections that may have wealthy people living in there, but Gentilly and New Orleans East are very poor. Lakeview was hit and that's where it's bad, lots of money there and Lakefront also you are right about that was hit hard. But most big money is Uptown and on the Northshore in Mandeville and Covington/Madsionville which is in business right now. Slidell was rocked on the east side only, anything west was wet but just got some wind damage, otherwise St. Tammany is in tact.

noone knows the extent of the damage of the dome.

I agree with that. I don't see how that's going to happen even if the Mayor says it but I just heard word (LSU connections and not official so take it for what it's worth) that the Sugar Bowl will be played in Tiger Stadium and that's almost a done deal. The Dome may be plowed and a new stadium built. The state is trying to get that into the federal recovery deal.

But it's not you Whodi, it's a lot of media in New York mostly that assume Benson wants to move. If that were the case he would have done so years ago, that's my only point. But when they play there make sure you head to the game.

This is my last comment on this and I'm going to shut my pie hole too. I'm not on you whodi, and I understand you points too.

saintswhodi · 09-13-2005, 04:39 PM

Well Halo, I am gonna take advantage of going to the games here, cause I am hoping this will not become a permanent move, and I will get to see my Saints in person for three games out of my life here in San Antonio. I never want them to leave New Orleans. Ever. But I willt ake advantage of the chance to see them. So when they sell out, know I contributed, and I hope every dollar goes to getting the city of New Orleans back in working condition.

TallySaint · 09-13-2005, 04:41 PM

Well Halo, I am gonna take advantage of going to the games here, cause I am hoping this will not become a permanent move, and I will get to see my Saints in person for three games out of my life here in San Antonio. I never want them to leave New Orleans. Ever. But I willt ake advantage of the chance to see them. So when they sell out, know I contributed, and I hope every dollar goes to getting the city of New Orleans back in working condition.

Who are you and what have you done with whodi?

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saintswhodi · 09-13-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by TallySaint

Well Halo, I am gonna take advantage of going to the games here, cause I am hoping this will not become a permanent move, and I will get to see my Saints in person for three games out of my life here in San Antonio. I never want them to leave New Orleans. Ever. But I willt ake advantage of the chance to see them. So when they sell out, know I contributed, and I hope every dollar goes to getting the city of New Orleans back in working condition.

Who are you and what have you done with whodi?

8)

When have I said anything different than that? Every time I spoke about San Antonio I made it clear I wanted the Saints to stay in New Orleans. I just like to clear up mis-conceptions about this city.

saintz08 · 09-13-2005, 09:44 PM

Sorry Saintswhodi

the San Antonio-Austin I-35 corridor is the second largest market without a team, Los Angeles is first.

The O.C. wants some football ......

While three sites just north of here fought over a football team, the NFL came to Anaheim and asked us to put together a proposal for the return of professional football to the nationÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s second largest media market. They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County as well. By this time next year, we will know if a new football stadium will be in our future, moving forward on our terms.

http://www.anaheim.net/article.asp?id=1033

saintswhodi · 09-13-2005, 09:49 PM

Um 08, that says media market. Now you do know the difference between media market and populus right? Populus is what I have been talking about all this time. Actual population? Nice try though bro.

saintz08 · 09-13-2005, 10:00 PM

Orange County California
Population, 2003 estimate 2,957,766

San Antonio Population: 1,144,646

Keep talking ......

saintswhodi · 09-13-2005, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintz08

Orange County California
Population, 2003 estimate 2,957,766

San Antonio Population: 1,144,646

Keep talking ......

Christ 08, you are getting worse. I said every time San Antonio/Austin corridor. That equals about 2 mil people, and growing, and doesn't include South to Laredo. Nice try again though. You sure are a persistent bugger. If you don't see where I said San Antonio/Austin corridor numerous times i'll be glad to point it out for you. It's only in every post I made on this subject But please, keep trying.

When I said LA was first, you must have mis-read it. I said they are first as far as areas of the country without a football team populus wise. San Antonio/Austin is second. I never said they would be first to get a team. I think you misread that.

San Antonio is a larger market than New Orleans, and the San Antonio-Austin I-35 corridor is the second largest market without a team, Los Angeles is first.

Isn't LA Orange County? :P

09-13-2005, 04:33 PM	#13
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,719 Blog Entries: 45	lakefront, Gentilly, New Orleans East(eastover) Actually you're talking about neighborhoods there in sections that may have wealthy people living in there, but Gentilly and New Orleans East are very poor. Lakeview was hit and that's where it's bad, lots of money there and Lakefront also you are right about that was hit hard. But most big money is Uptown and on the Northshore in Mandeville and Covington/Madsionville which is in business right now. Slidell was rocked on the east side only, anything west was wet but just got some wind damage, otherwise St. Tammany is in tact. noone knows the extent of the damage of the dome. I agree with that. I don't see how that's going to happen even if the Mayor says it but I just heard word (LSU connections and not official so take it for what it's worth) that the Sugar Bowl will be played in Tiger Stadium and that's almost a done deal. The Dome may be plowed and a new stadium built. The state is trying to get that into the federal recovery deal. But it's not you Whodi, it's a lot of media in New York mostly that assume Benson wants to move. If that were the case he would have done so years ago, that's my only point. But when they play there make sure you head to the game. This is my last comment on this and I'm going to shut my pie hole too. I'm not on you whodi, and I understand you points too.
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09-13-2005, 04:52 PM	#16
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by TallySaint Well Halo, I am gonna take advantage of going to the games here, cause I am hoping this will not become a permanent move, and I will get to see my Saints in person for three games out of my life here in San Antonio. I never want them to leave New Orleans. Ever. But I willt ake advantage of the chance to see them. So when they sell out, know I contributed, and I hope every dollar goes to getting the city of New Orleans back in working condition. Who are you and what have you done with whodi? 8) When have I said anything different than that? Every time I spoke about San Antonio I made it clear I wanted the Saints to stay in New Orleans. I just like to clear up mis-conceptions about this city.

09-13-2005, 09:44 PM	#17
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Sorry Saintswhodi the San Antonio-Austin I-35 corridor is the second largest market without a team, Los Angeles is first. The O.C. wants some football ...... While three sites just north of here fought over a football team, the NFL came to Anaheim and asked us to put together a proposal for the return of professional football to the nationÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s second largest media market. They recognized that Anaheim is the demographic, economic, and social center of this market, with better affinity not only to Orange County, but Riverside, San Bernardino, and portions of Los Angeles County as well. By this time next year, we will know if a new football stadium will be in our future, moving forward on our terms. http://www.anaheim.net/article.asp?id=1033
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09-13-2005, 10:00 PM	#19
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Orange County California Population, 2003 estimate 2,957,766 San Antonio Population: 1,144,646 Keep talking ......
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09-13-2005, 10:12 PM	#20
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by saintz08 Orange County California Population, 2003 estimate 2,957,766 San Antonio Population: 1,144,646 Keep talking ...... Christ 08, you are getting worse. I said every time San Antonio/Austin corridor. That equals about 2 mil people, and growing, and doesn't include South to Laredo. Nice try again though. You sure are a persistent bugger. If you don't see where I said San Antonio/Austin corridor numerous times i'll be glad to point it out for you. It's only in every post I made on this subject But please, keep trying. When I said LA was first, you must have mis-read it. I said they are first as far as areas of the country without a football team populus wise. San Antonio/Austin is second. I never said they would be first to get a team. I think you misread that. San Antonio is a larger market than New Orleans, and the San Antonio-Austin I-35 corridor is the second largest market without a team, Los Angeles is first. Isn't LA Orange County? :P

09-13-2005, 04:29 PM	#11
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	One more note on Los Angeles and I'll shut my pie hole. This was comment when Houston was awarded their franchise... "The NFL was determined to put a team in the nation's second-largest television market, but when the final showdown came, L.A. was hamstrung by conflicting proposals, a lack of public money, limited city and state support and fans who didn't seem to care." ... and "Raiders owner Al Davis has long maintained LA is still his territory". 8)

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09-13-2005, 04:39 PM	#14
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Well Halo, I am gonna take advantage of going to the games here, cause I am hoping this will not become a permanent move, and I will get to see my Saints in person for three games out of my life here in San Antonio. I never want them to leave New Orleans. Ever. But I willt ake advantage of the chance to see them. So when they sell out, know I contributed, and I hope every dollar goes to getting the city of New Orleans back in working condition.

09-13-2005, 04:41 PM	#15
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Well Halo, I am gonna take advantage of going to the games here, cause I am hoping this will not become a permanent move, and I will get to see my Saints in person for three games out of my life here in San Antonio. I never want them to leave New Orleans. Ever. But I willt ake advantage of the chance to see them. So when they sell out, know I contributed, and I hope every dollar goes to getting the city of New Orleans back in working condition. Who are you and what have you done with whodi? 8)

09-13-2005, 09:49 PM	#18
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Um 08, that says media market. Now you do know the difference between media market and populus right? Populus is what I have been talking about all this time. Actual population? Nice try though bro.