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dizzle88 08-10-2021 06:01 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 924687)
And this might be what makes it "The Toilet of Idaho".

:rolleyes:
In the effort of complete neutrality, J has a point though. There is a double standard being developed.

Jemele Hill called a boxing match racist because a white man knocked out a black man. Likely being a troll, but she still said on it Live TV, that again is someone trying to cause a rift between humanity - nothing happened.

Brees said that he respects the flag because it reminds him of everything his grandfather fought for and he doesn't like when people disrespect it. Granted he probably misinterpreted the question and didn't answer amazingly, however only 1 of the examples I mentioned above was said with intent to cause divisive arguments. And it damn sure wasn't Brees.

Yet in that instant, a ton of people forgot about everything good Brees had ever done, and flamed him. I'm not talking about whole cultures either, because from what I heard, Demario Davis had enough about him to reach out to Brees quietly. Whereas MJ and MT went straight to the media.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2021 06:11 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 924688)
In the effort of complete neutrality, J has a point though. There is a double standard being developed.

Jemele Hill called a boxing match racist because a white man knocked out a black man. Likely being a troll, but she still said on it Live TV, that again is someone trying to cause a rift between humanity - nothing happened.

Brees said that he respects the flag because it reminds him of everything his grandfather fought for and he doesn't like when people disrespect it. Granted he probably misinterpreted the question and didn't answer amazingly, however only 1 of the examples I mentioned above was said with intent to cause divisive arguments. And it damn sure wasn't Brees.

Yet in that instant, a ton of people forgot about everything good Brees had ever done, and flamed him. I'm not talking about whole cultures either, because from what I heard, Demario Davis had enough about him to reach out to Brees quietly. Whereas MJ and MT went straight to the media.
Yes. The fact is that we are all basically humans with our own problems and how they affect us and how we react to them differs greatly.

rezburna 08-10-2021 06:15 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 924680)
What was "cultural" about Brees's statement? I understood it to be his opinion on military service and the flag.
Like Guido said, there was a vast difference in cultural interpretation of the protests just like there’s a vast difference in the cultural interpretation of the country. At this point, who doesn’t have family that fought for this country? Only difference is my family came home to Jim Crow and other forms of discrimination. If the truth is divisive then we’re just gonna have to be divided. I won’t lie to keep the peace. 🤷🏽*♂️

jnormand 08-10-2021 06:16 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Ha! Guido! I'd "like" your response about "the toilet of Idaho" dig, but I blocked you a long time ago. Not that it matters much, you argue with most on this board that they constantly quote your responses in replies to you. So I see most of them anyway. Lol.

AsylumGuido 08-10-2021 06:19 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 924691)
Ha! Guido! I'd "like" your response about "the toilet of Idaho" dig, but I blocked you a long time ago. Not that it matters much, you argue with most on this board that they constantly quote your responses in replies to you. So I see most of them anyway. Lol.
You are quite unaware, my friend. Keeping your head buried in the sand perpetrates that situation.

rezburna 08-10-2021 06:19 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 924686)
And Rez says he'd stand with his "culture." Meaning what? That is divisive talk IMO. What if a white guy wanted "stand with their culture?" They'd be labeled racist.

There is nothing wrong with being patriotic and having love for flag, anthem, country and service members. And it has nothing to do with culture.
I honestly don’t mind if you stand with your culture. It doesn’t bother me at all. I’m here to compete and help get my community out of their situations. As long as you aren’t impeding me from doing that I ain’t got no beef.

rezburna 08-10-2021 06:27 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 924688)
In the effort of complete neutrality, J has a point though. There is a double standard being developed.

Jemele Hill called a boxing match racist because a white man knocked out a black man. Likely being a troll, but she still said on it Live TV, that again is someone trying to cause a rift between humanity - nothing happened.

Brees said that he respects the flag because it reminds him of everything his grandfather fought for and he doesn't like when people disrespect it. Granted he probably misinterpreted the question and didn't answer amazingly, however only 1 of the examples I mentioned above was said with intent to cause divisive arguments. And it damn sure wasn't Brees.

Yet in that instant, a ton of people forgot about everything good Brees had ever done, and flamed him. I'm not talking about whole cultures either, because from what I heard, Demario Davis had enough about him to reach out to Brees quietly. Whereas MJ and MT went straight to the media.
I get it. There’s some double standards that benefit or hurt each and every demographic. Black women and LGBTQ people are calling Black men the “White men of Black people” and slandering us every chance they get. Everybody is under fire right now. It’s the world we live in now. Nobody is safe.

jeanpierre 08-10-2021 08:37 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 924688)
In the effort of complete neutrality, J has a point though. There is a double standard being developed.

Jemele Hill called a boxing match racist because a white man knocked out a black man. Likely being a troll, but she still said on it Live TV, that again is someone trying to cause a rift between humanity - nothing happened.

Brees said that he respects the flag because it reminds him of everything his grandfather fought for and he doesn't like when people disrespect it. Granted he probably misinterpreted the question and didn't answer amazingly, however only 1 of the examples I mentioned above was said with intent to cause divisive arguments. And it damn sure wasn't Brees.

Yet in that instant, a ton of people forgot about everything good Brees had ever done, and flamed him. I'm not talking about whole cultures either, because from what I heard, Demario Davis had enough about him to reach out to Brees quietly. Whereas MJ and MT went straight to the media.
And MJ was brought back because of leadership; not much of a leader to take it to social media than going see a teammate face to face...

Rell&Gold 08-10-2021 11:37 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 924627)
The kneeling.
My bad Boston I thought you were talking about the arm comments

jeanpierre 08-11-2021 06:08 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 924688)
In the effort of complete neutrality, J has a point though. There is a double standard being developed.

Jemele Hill called a boxing match racist because a white man knocked out a black man. Likely being a troll, but she still said on it Live TV, that again is someone trying to cause a rift between humanity - nothing happened.

Brees said that he respects the flag because it reminds him of everything his grandfather fought for and he doesn't like when people disrespect it. Granted he probably misinterpreted the question and didn't answer amazingly, however only 1 of the examples I mentioned above was said with intent to cause divisive arguments. And it damn sure wasn't Brees.

Yet in that instant, a ton of people forgot about everything good Brees had ever done, and flamed him. I'm not talking about whole cultures either, because from what I heard, Demario Davis had enough about him to reach out to Brees quietly. Whereas MJ and MT went straight to the media.
She can't offer anything constructive, just sensationalism - she's just another Howard Stern - say anything outrageous just to stay in the public discourse...

Boston Saint 08-11-2021 06:51 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 924701)
My bad Boston I thought you were talking about the arm comments
👍

saintsfan1976 08-11-2021 07:06 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 924690)
Like Guido said, there was a vast difference in cultural interpretation of the protests just like there’s a vast difference in the cultural interpretation of the country. At this point, who doesn’t have family that fought for this country? Only difference is my family came home to Jim Crow and other forms of discrimination. If the truth is divisive then we’re just gonna have to be divided. I won’t lie to keep the peace. 🤷🏽*♂️
I wish everyone was honest about "truths" in this country. But we're not. Instead it's agendas for personal promotion and gain.

Brees said he would "never agree with people disrespecting the flag of the United States or our country". Not a cultural statement until culture was injected into it.

Jim Crow is a stain on our country and thankfully made illegal in 1965 (far too late). I wish people were more accepting of each other and regarded character higher than skin color. But that's not what keeps us divided for others' benefit, is it?

SmashMouth 08-11-2021 08:54 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Ian Rappaport says MT wants a trade?-- FB linky

AsylumGuido 08-11-2021 09:09 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 924729)
Ian Fullacrap. He has thrown more up against a wall than anyone known to man hoping to see something stick.

SmashMouth 08-11-2021 11:55 AM
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jnormand 08-11-2021 02:08 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 924729)
Aaaand here we go. If this it true, this could be a serious issue going into the season. More so from a team attitude and atmosphere then a WR issue. Just my opinion.

Boston Saint 08-11-2021 02:16 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
I believe he was one of the first to break the story that Coach Payton was leaving to coach the cowlovers and that Bigfoot was signed to play tight end for the Seahawks.

saintsfan1976 08-13-2021 06:19 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 924757)
I believe he was one of the first to break the story that Coach Payton was leaving to coach the cowlovers and that Bigfoot was signed to play tight end for the Seahawks.
:D

Rugby Saint II 08-13-2021 12:25 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Thomas will play this season as a Saint after that he'll probably be playing elsewhere. I was a huge fan of his until the diva started showing.

jeanpierre 08-13-2021 05:04 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 924567)
Don’t believe everything this shady-ass franchise feeds the media. Mike may have been in the wrong but Sean Payton straight up got into a physical altercation with Delvin Breaux because he didn’t believe his leg was broken.
And that's why I was giving @CantGuardMike the benefit of the doubt, but then the flags went up...

First, was Mike Thomas Food Giveaway and the Medical Bills Forgiveness program when the story first broke (same day as negative story?)...

Second, this wasn't a dispute of whether or not he was injured, this was not returning calls (no excuse for unprofessionalism)...

Third, if you don't trust the team docs, fine. What was Camp Thomas' plan of treatment to be ready to play when camp started? None...

So this is on Mike. Now, that's not to say Sean and Mickey may not have said or done something to complicate it as they've not the best track record with their Ochsner Docs...

But not returning calls, making follow up appts, not giving yourself option to be ready for camp - Mike takes this hit on this one...

But it wasn't only Delvin Breax that got shat on by Sean and Co; don't forget Westbank (Keenan Lewis) got the same deal - rub some dirt on it, Docs say you're fine Tx...

AsylumGuido 08-13-2021 05:10 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 924903)
And that's why I was giving @CantGuardMike the benefit of the doubt, but then the flags went up...

First, was Mike Thomas Food Giveaway and the Medical Bills Forgiveness program when the story first broke (same day as negative story?)...

Second, this wasn't a dispute of whether or not he was injured, this was not returning calls (no excuse for unprofessionalism)...

Third, if you don't trust the team docs, fine. What was Camp Thomas' plan of treatment to be ready to play when camp started? None...

So this is on Mike. Now, that's not to say Sean and Mickey may not have said or done something to complicate it as they've not the best track record with their Ochsner Docs...

But not returning calls, making follow up appts, not giving yourself option to be ready for camp - Mike takes this hit on this one...

But it wasn't only Delvin Breax that got shat on by Sean and Co; don't forget Westbank (Keenan Lewis) got the same deal - rub some dirt on it, Docs say you're fine Tx...
Yeah. Keep that bitterness. Kinda like ...

https://blackandgold.com/u/4973-albu...icture1300.jpg

:D

Lord_Saint83 08-13-2021 05:55 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 924903)
And that's why I was giving @CantGuardMike the benefit of the doubt, but then the flags went up...

First, was Mike Thomas Food Giveaway and the Medical Bills Forgiveness program when the story first broke (same day as negative story?)...

Second, this wasn't a dispute of whether or not he was injured, this was not returning calls (no excuse for unprofessionalism)...

Third, if you don't trust the team docs, fine. What was Camp Thomas' plan of treatment to be ready to play when camp started? None...

So this is on Mike. Now, that's not to say Sean and Mickey may not have said or done something to complicate it as they've not the best track record with their Ochsner Docs...

But not returning calls, making follow up appts, not giving yourself option to be ready for camp - Mike takes this hit on this one...

But it wasn't only Delvin Breax that got shat on by Sean and Co; don't forget Westbank (Keenan Lewis) got the same deal - rub some dirt on it, Docs say you're fine Tx...


Don’t forget about Vaccaro too, JP. The guy was playing with a muscle torn off the bone. Those doctors must of been quacks

jeanpierre 08-13-2021 06:05 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 924905)
Yeah. Keep that bitterness. Kinda like ...

https://blackandgold.com/u/4973-albu...icture1300.jpg

:D
Guess you've been working on that for a week?

https://media.giphy.com/media/13GKP7...e5oI/giphy.gif

AsylumGuido 08-13-2021 06:15 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 924908)
Guess you've been working on that for a week?

https://media.giphy.com/media/13GKP7...e5oI/giphy.gif
Nope. I first posted that a year ago. A couple of times since then. It only took five minutes way back then. Surprised you missed it.

But thanks for the much belated clap.

jeanpierre 08-13-2021 06:22 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 924909)
Nope. I first posted that a year ago. A couple of times since then. It only took five minutes way back then. Surprised you missed it.

But thanks for the much belated clap.
Made that appointment to unload your issues?

AsylumGuido 08-13-2021 06:40 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 924911)
Made that appointment to unload your issues?
Excuse me? Would you please expound upon that?

jeanpierre 08-13-2021 06:55 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 924914)
Excuse me? Would you please expound upon that?
Well, this coming season has potentially a lot of disappointment for Saints fans and there's sure to be a great many stories, tweets, posts, and responses that will upset your world...

You should ready yourself for what you perceive as a great deal of negativity that you won't be able to control or mute, unless you work on yourself to deal with what you can't control...

AsylumGuido 08-13-2021 07:00 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 924918)
Well, this coming season has potentially a lot of disappointment for Saints fans and there's sure to be a great many stories, tweets, posts, and responses that will upset your world...

You should ready yourself for what you perceive as a great deal of negativity that you won't be able to control or mute, unless you work on yourself to deal with what you can't control...
Or perhaps your expected downfalls do not come to be. I can roll with the punches of life and not have to be negative. Always looking for and expecting the best.

You live yours your way and I'll happily live mine mine.

20-0 Baby!

:bng:

jeanpierre 08-14-2021 11:56 AM
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#WTF

jeanpierre 08-14-2021 12:14 PM
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jnormand 08-14-2021 12:30 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Ugh. I hope this BS with MT doesn't continue through the season. I've always loathed high profile receivers like OBJ, TO and the likes. MT is heading down that road. If that's the direction he chooses, I hope we get rid of him before he turns into a cancer.

jeanpierre 08-17-2021 12:52 AM
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AsylumGuido 08-17-2021 10:31 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 925337)
This matches what I had heard a couple of weeks ago. He may be ready to return as early as week three.

Rugby Saint II 08-17-2021 02:00 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 924534)
What the hell is wrong with you people?
Who are you calling you people? ;)

jeanpierre 08-25-2021 09:21 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Wow, #CantGuardMike certainly had a lot of drama going on this offseason...'

Now TMZ is piling on...

Rugby Saint II 08-25-2021 11:44 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 926621)
Wow, #CantGuardMike certainly had a lot of drama going on this offseason...'

Now TMZ is piling on...

https://twitter.com/TMZ_Sports/statu...33065097551876
It looks like he's looking for someone to blame besides himself. I will pull for him to be great but I don't have to like him.

K Major 08-25-2021 11:56 AM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 926621)
Wow, #CantGuardMike certainly had a lot of drama going on this offseason...'

Now TMZ is piling on...

https://twitter.com/TMZ_Sports/statu...33065097551876
https://media2.giphy.com/media/1Xb9R...giphy.gif&ct=g

iceshack149 08-25-2021 02:08 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 926657)
Hard to believe that he's related to Keyshawn Johnson.:dunce:

AsylumGuido 08-25-2021 02:53 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 926674)
Hard to believe that he's related to Keyshawn Johnson.:dunce:
You mean "just throw me the damned ball" Keyshawn?

dizzle88 08-25-2021 04:35 PM
Re: Jeff Duncan | How unanswered calls contributed to delay in Michael Thomas' surgery
 
Didn't Keyshawn Johnson cry because Wayne Chrebet was getting the ball more than him?


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