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Boston Saint 09-18-2021 05:51 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 928694)
Water under the bridge. Why dwell on the past? How does that help? Does it make you feel better?

I'm sorry, but I simply do not get the angst over something that has absolutely no present relevance. All of this "what could have been" talk is useless. It's just another excuse to ***** and moan.

:rolleyes:

It’s not water under the bridge because the player is not available for the game tomorrow. Can’t for the life of me figure out why you come down on someone expressing an opinion. F-off.

Audiotom 09-18-2021 06:59 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 928686)
Davenport is beginning to reach Jairus Byrd level as it relates to availability.

Most of us already knew Kwon is hit or miss. His injury history has been well documented. The NFL is a grind.

Ice up.


Jairus Byrd always underperformed

Wasn’t the ball hawk that Sean traded away for

Davenport when he is healthy is a force of nature
And we didn’t bring him in from another team

Audiotom 09-18-2021 07:17 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 928690)
I realize it’s not his fault, but the picks given up do bug me. The two first rounders could have been traded for say two third rounders each. Pair that with the additional third given to trade up and that’s 5 third rounders that could have been used to try and replace the production Davenport had shown so far.

I don’t dislike the player. I don’t dislike his game. If he’d have stayed even somewhat healthy he would have warranted a 14th overall pick. But a heck of a lot more than a 14th was spent on him and he’s spent a heck a lot of time on the injured list.

They did not give up two first rounders and a third for Davenport

They swapped a lower number first round 2018 pick for a higher numbered one
Then gave Green Bay a higher number 2019 first round pick
They also gave Green Bay a 3rd round pick.

Essentially they took a much desired player
Ended up giving up a third and a late first round pick

Marcus looked good against Green Bay
Lets hope he has the drive to thrive

AsylumGuido 09-18-2021 08:28 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 928727)
It’s not water under the bridge because the player is not available for the game tomorrow. Can’t for the life of me figure out why you come down on someone expressing an opinion. F-off.

Yes it is water under the bridge. It makes no difference whether they used eight 1st rounders on him or if he was a UDFA. The fact that he can't play this week has nothing to do with when he was acquired. Right?

And coming down on you? Touchy much? ;)

Boston Saint 09-18-2021 09:06 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 928733)
They did not give up two first rounders and a third for Davenport

They swapped a lower number first round 2018 pick for a higher numbered one
Then gave Green Bay a higher number 2019 first round pick
They also gave Green Bay a 3rd round pick.

Essentially they took a much desired player
Ended up giving up a third and a late first round pick

Marcus looked good against Green Bay
Lets hope he has the drive to thrive

That’s three picks spent on Davenport.

Boston Saint 09-18-2021 09:07 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 928734)
Yes it is water under the bridge. It makes no difference whether they used eight 1st rounders on him or if he was a UDFA. The fact that he can't play this week has nothing to do with when he was acquired. Right?

And coming down on you? Touchy much? ;)

No, just calling your BS.

AsylumGuido 09-18-2021 09:13 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 928736)
No, just calling your BS.

Just because you cannot understand the concept does not make it BS. But you just keep on rockin' that dwelling on irrelevant past issues. If it makes you happy that's all that matters!

:D

Boston Saint 09-18-2021 09:27 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 928737)
Just because you cannot understand the concept does not make it BS. But you just keep on rockin' that dwelling on irrelevant past issues. If it makes you happy that's all that matters!

:D

So glad I don’t need your permission.

K Major 09-18-2021 09:58 PM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 928732)
Jairus Byrd always underperformed

Wasn’t the ball hawk that Sean traded away for

Davenport when he is healthy is a force of nature
And we didn’t bring him in from another team

I think you missed my point. Coaches and GMs could care less if you are a former 1st rounder, acquired free agent or undrafted player. If you are missing games, you can’t help the team.

BEST ABILITY IS AVAILABILITY.

AsylumGuido 09-19-2021 08:02 AM

Re: Kwon & Davenport placed on IR
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 928740)
I think you missed my point. Coaches and GMs could care less if you are a former 1st rounder, acquired free agent or undrafted player. If you are missing games, you can’t help the team.

BEST ABILITY IS AVAILABILITY.

Exactly! Coaches and GM's know that when or how a player has been acquired doesn't matter. Every player on the roster is looked at only in what they provide come gameday. Otherwise no one would ever release a 1st round pick and it happens fairly regularly.


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