Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

I was surprised it took so long to get Taysom involved, and that he wasn't involved more. Not so much as a QB but some more gadgety ways. As a matter of fact I'm surprised Sean didn't inject some razzle dazzle plays in the second half when Jamius obviously wasn't getting it done, an end arounds, flee flicker, something.

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That’s a hard assignment for a guy in only his second start to do.

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

U should be more worried ur oline and lack of talent were

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I'm late because I was traveling yesterday. I had to listen to the game on siriusXM. But nice to have that option, as WWL doesn't reach Georgia. I didn't understand why SP kept trying the same crap that wasn't working on offense. Seems like once it was clear that normal three step drop or handoff wasn't working, he should have thrown Taysom in there with some run/pass option to loosen up the defense.

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Wouldn’t have mattered who was at QB. The play of offense line was offensive. Even the few plays Hill contributed with weren’t great. We couldn’t run and we couldn’t pass.

Defense did okay with having so many key starters out but they could have played a lot better as well.

I think being on the road for over three weeks is also starting to get to them.

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Repeat

Winston's own words -

“I have to take responsibility for communicating with the offensive line...Got to get us in better protections. Just communicate better out there.”

Taysom Hill had 2 RuAtt for 9 RuYds and 7 RuYds, so, if anything, Taysom should have gotten more touches earlier, and often...

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Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

For those that follow...

PFF Grades for Saints, Week 2

Top 5, Offense

1. C Cesar Ruiz – 70.9
   
   
2. QB Taysom Hill – 69.8
   
   
3. WR Lil’Jordan Humphrey – 69.5
   
   
4. RG Calvin Throckmorton – 69.3
   
   
5. WR Chris Hogan – 64.1

Bottom 5, Offense

1. QB Jameis Winston – 40.7
   
   
2. RB Alvin Kamara – 43.8
   
   
3. LG Andrus Peat – 44.2
   
   
4. WR Marquez Callaway – 45.1
   
   
5. FB Garrett Griffin – 48.6

Top 5, Defense

1. S Marcus Williams – 76.3
   
   
2. LB Demario Davis – 75.4
   
   
3. CB Desmond Trufant – 74.2
   
   
4. DE Cameron Jordan – 74.1
   
   
5. DE Payton Turner – 72.1

Bottom 5, Defense

1. LB Andrew Dowell – 44.5
   
   
2. DT Malcolm Roach – 43.1
   
   
3. DE Jalyn Holmes – 42.7
   
   
4. CB Paulson Adebo – 40.6
   
   
5. LB Zack Baun – 29.0

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

Detroit is a tough City to coach in, Dan has to mop up the mess left to him by Patricia.
But I to was hoping that they would knock the Arrogant One further off his perch..

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We have another road trip this weekend but at least it's not a home game played in New England. The Saints should be sleeping in their own beds next week and hopefully recharge their woefully dead batteries and play like they are rejuvenated. Being in a full capacity Dome should give us an additional boost and give us the Dome field advantage everyone in the NFL knows about.

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There’s also a very real probability that we just aren’t a very good team this year. Probability really. We just don’t have the personnel on offense.

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And if that is the case, that's understandable. QB's like Brees don't come around often and I think he hid a lot of the deficiencies of this team.

His pre-snap reads when his arm lost strength, meant the OL barely had to block for longer than a second. In his prime, he'd make UDFA's into pro bowlers.

I don't think any QB on this roster currently can do that. Jameis seems like he needs the situation to be perfect to make a play, if it's not, the ball is going the other way.
Taysom, adds a different dimension to this offense, but can't progress reads and Kamara is a non entity with Taysom at QB.

As for Ian Book, if we are way out of the playoff race come mid season, I think the young man deserves a shot.

I think Payton needs to get rid of some under performers, to allow the offense to restock a little.

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

JW has always been hot and cold. This last game was one of the worst I saw him play.

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We need to fix the protections on the OL and see some more from Winston. We need to see 5 games at a bare minimum before arriving at a verdict on Winston, as long as he is healthy. Speaking of, Jameis needs to slide because he is getting lit up on some of these scrambles.

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Im not gonna say yes or no until I see what Winston can with a Saints offense with MT. Taysom in his four games had a full cupboard of weapons from MT, Sanders, and Cook. I think CSP know this and will wait til then as well to decide. Which I think Winston will be fine. The Saints has the worst receiving corps in the nfl, a bunch of no. 3’s and no. 4’s. Just as bad as Brady’s last year in NE.

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Agreed... this is his first as a Saint. However as SP stated, the OL had a lot more to do with it than WR separation, prolly add in a sprinkle of referee calls. If we presumably have a top 5 OL, it surely didn't show it in this game.

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Patriots are up next fellas ...

Time to redirect the attention to Foxborough. Won't be an easy game although I'm sure this team will play considerably better on Sunday.

Defensively, expect Bellicheck to target the weak spot on the O-line... The A gap and Peat.

I'm hopeful we get Lattimore & Ceedy back as well.

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina
 

Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina