Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns?

BakoSaint · 09-20-2021, 11:44 PM

Since McCoy went down, we have had a lot of issues with guard and center play. Throckmorton is new to the lineup, but it seems to me like Ruiz and Peat have received as much or more criticism. So, what happens when McCoy returns? Has Throckmorton outplayed Peat and Ruiz? All else being equal he is younger, cheaper, healthier, and has good size. Do we have to start the guy with the big contract or the high pick? Or can we start the best player? Would a benching light a fire under Peat or Ruiz?

ChrisXVI · 09-21-2021, 04:40 AM

Ruiz had been looking excellent at RG. No need to bench him.

K Major · 09-21-2021, 08:26 AM

Pre mature overreaction.

CSP is already in the lab and will figure it out.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-21-2021, 08:40 AM

Does Reiter start at center since he was a starting center in KC and move Ruiz back to Guard

MatthewT · 09-21-2021, 08:52 AM

No need to really force anything at this point, we all know someone on the left side is going to get hurt soon and Throckmorton will get the opportunity to show what he can do at LG soon enough.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-21-2021, 09:39 AM

Won’t take to many more glaring examples of poor protection calls and just absolute loss of situational awareness and a change will come. Plenty of fault to go around but the center and left guard play looked amateur level at best.

FinSaint · 09-21-2021, 09:57 AM

I've tried to stay away from piling on negativity on Peat, but he was just terrible in that game, and not for the first time.

I don't know if the line would be better overall with him being replaced by Throckmorton when McCoy returns, but it certainly is something to think about.

That contract he is on was and is a headscratcher.

K Major · 09-21-2021, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I've tried to stay away from piling on negativity on Peat, but he was just terrible in that game, and not for the first time.

I don't know if the line would be better overall with him being replaced by Throckmorton when McCoy returns, but it certainly is something to think about.

And he's often on the ground when a sack occurs. When you focus in on the replay of the game, Andrus Peat continues to be the weak link (Morgan Fox ate his lunch all game) on the Saints offensive line. Peat was flat-out terrible.

I'm also floored that the front office gave him such a lucrative contract.

And some want this guy as your tackle? Holy smokes

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RailBoss · 09-21-2021, 11:01 AM

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The Dude · 09-21-2021, 12:15 PM

That was the worst performance I’ve seen from the offensive line in the Payton era. I believe it was an anomaly. Year in year out we have one of the best offensive lines in the league even with injury, they will be fine. To answer your question though yes, you start the better player regardless of where they are drafted.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? Since McCoy went down, we have had a lot of issues with guard and center play. Throckmorton is new to the lineup, but it seems to me like Ruiz and Peat have received as much or more criticism. So, what happens when McCoy returns? Has Throckmorton outplayed Peat and Ruiz? All else being equal he is younger, cheaper, healthier, and has good size. Do we have to start the guy with the big contract or the high pick? Or can we start the best player? Would a benching light a fire under Peat or Ruiz?
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? Ruiz had been looking excellent at RG. No need to bench him. Rugby Saint II and FinSaint like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? Pre mature overreaction. CSP is already in the lab and will figure it out. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? No need to really force anything at this point, we all know someone on the left side is going to get hurt soon and Throckmorton will get the opportunity to show what he can do at LG soon enough.

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? Won’t take to many more glaring examples of poor protection calls and just absolute loss of situational awareness and a change will come. Plenty of fault to go around but the center and left guard play looked amateur level at best.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? I've tried to stay away from piling on negativity on Peat, but he was just terrible in that game, and not for the first time. I don't know if the line would be better overall with him being replaced by Throckmorton when McCoy returns, but it certainly is something to think about. That contract he is on was and is a headscratcher. jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II, Pete and 1 others like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? Originally Posted by FinSaint I've tried to stay away from piling on negativity on Peat, but he was just terrible in that game, and not for the first time. I don't know if the line would be better overall with him being replaced by Throckmorton when McCoy returns, but it certainly is something to think about. And he's often on the ground when a sack occurs. When you focus in on the replay of the game, Andrus Peat continues to be the weak link (Morgan Fox ate his lunch all game) on the Saints offensive line. Peat was flat-out terrible. I'm also floored that the front office gave him such a lucrative contract. And some want this guy as your tackle? Holy smokes . jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II, MarchingOn and 1 others like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Starting Guard Battle? Should Throckmorton supplant Peat/Ruiz when McCoy returns? That was the worst performance I’ve seen from the offensive line in the Payton era. I believe it was an anomaly. Year in year out we have one of the best offensive lines in the league even with injury, they will be fine. To answer your question though yes, you start the better player regardless of where they are drafted. SaintGnome likes this.
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