DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ?

SmashMouth · 10-08-2021, 11:23 AM

Is he on the downside in terms of production versus his previous years?

Maybe we need to wait until Davenport and Onyemata are back before making an assessment?

With our yo-yo performance of late, maybe we should consider this as part of the challenges our D is going through.

neugey · 10-08-2021, 11:38 AM

Sometimes older veteran players take a while to get rolling. Hopefully after the bye his play will start to pick up.

Lord_Saint83 · 10-08-2021, 11:59 AM

It’d like to see him in the interior with oynemata. The pressure they’d get up the middle will disrupt any QB. Edge rushing is easier for a QB to navigate than pressure in his face up the middle. Even Drew had troubles with interior pressure

dizzle88 · 10-08-2021, 11:59 AM

Not as effective as he once was is still about twice as effective as Davenport is.

ChrisXVI · 10-08-2021, 01:55 PM

Hell yeah he’s on the downside. He’s 32 years old. It took a while for him to become a good pass rusher in the first place and now Father Time is taking it away. It feels like the only times he gets pressure now is on a stunt when the guard doesn’t pick him up or when the QB is out of the pocket.

SmashMouth · 10-08-2021, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Hell yeah he’s on the downside. He’s 32 years old. It took a while for him to become a good pass rusher in the first place and now Father Time is taking it away. It feels like the only times he gets pressure now is on a stunt when the guard doesn’t pick him up or when the QB is out of the pocket.

Couldn't it be that he's been nation making ... With number 5 on the way ?

jeanpierre · 10-09-2021, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Sometimes older veteran players take a while to get rolling. Hopefully after the bye his play will start to pick up.

Yeah, but you can't commit that much salary cap to wait for him to get it going; he's been in decline now going on two seasons; he's already 32yo...

He's played the run extremely well as of late, as well as doing a great job of sealing off the edge to scrambling QBs; but he's getting paid to put QBs on the ground...

The Meat Guy · 10-09-2021, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Couldn't it be that he's been nation making ... With number 5 on the way ?

Mebbe...

Rugby Saint II · 10-09-2021, 12:21 PM

Let's see how he does when we get a decent DT.

Lord_Saint83 · 10-09-2021, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Let's see how he does when we get a decent DT.

That’s not out the realm of possibility. Didn’t think of that possibly, with Oynemata back it might free him and the other edge rusher up. Oyenmata might be the key for this d-line to really flourish.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Hell yeah he’s on the downside. He’s 32 years old. It took a while for him to become a good pass rusher in the first place and now Father Time is taking it away. It feels like the only times he gets pressure now is on a stunt when the guard doesn’t pick him up or when the QB is out of the pocket. Couldn't it be that he's been nation making ... With number 5 on the way ?

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: DE cameron Jordan not as effective as he once was ? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Let's see how he does when we get a decent DT. That’s not out the realm of possibility. Didn’t think of that possibly, with Oynemata back it might free him and the other edge rusher up. Oyenmata might be the key for this d-line to really flourish. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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