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SmashMouth 10-25-2021 10:20 PM

Observations from the Saints' Win over the Seahawks
 
It's a win! Even ugly wins are beautiful.

May not be a need for Verity with this Johnson fellow we have here now at kicker!

leilung 10-25-2021 10:27 PM

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Need MT back in a bad way. JW needs to just let it fly. Getting O back for the push up the middle is going to make a huge difference.

Trequan better get it together quick, because he's on borrowed time.

Lord_Saint83 10-25-2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 932406)
It's a win! Even ugly wins are beautiful.

May not be a need for Verity with this Johnson fellow we have here now at kicker!



Clutch. Rook’s got balls of steel

RailBoss 10-25-2021 10:29 PM

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Brian Johnson has made more FGs today than the Saints have made in the first five games.

Boston Saint 10-25-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 932422)
Brian Johnson has made more FGs today than the Saints have made in the first five games.

I hate that I liked this statement.

BakoSaint 10-25-2021 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 932422)
Brian Johnson has made more FGs today than the Saints have made in the first five games.

Brian Johnson made more extra points today than the Saints have good starting wide receivers active the first 5 games.

Trainwreck Smith has never been consistent. Trout Man is a failed experiment and Juwon Johnson would be better to start. The team as a whole might be better using Kamara frequently as a wide receiver because Kamara is both our #1 wr and our #1 rb and he may be our #1 WR by a greater margin.

K Major 10-25-2021 10:37 PM

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I'm gonna come from a different angle tonight.

It was kind of refreshing to see Jameis Winston chew out #10 ... Trequan Smith. Several times tonight. Collectively, our WR group has underperformed. Good to see the QB make guys more accountable out there.

AK can't play WR, RB, joker all game. WR's need to step it up. When Michael gets back, Trequan can have a seat.

This defense is the strength of the team that's for sure.

4-2 is a good spot to be in. Wasn't pretty tonight but a win is a win.

jeanpierre 10-25-2021 10:37 PM

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Know a lot of folks were disappointed with the play-calling, believe Sean is looking ahead to next week vs the Bucs and saving the good stuff to take over the division...

K Major 10-25-2021 10:45 PM

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Forgot to mention one more key guy ...

Blake Gillikin. He's a weapon.

Lord_Saint83 10-25-2021 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 932433)
I'm gonna come from a different angle tonight.

It was kind of refreshing to see Jameis Winston chew out #10 ... Trequan Smith. Several times tonight. Collectively, our WR group has underperformed. Good to see the QB make guys more accountable out there.

AK can't play WR, RB, joker all game. WR's need to step it up. When Michael gets back, Trequan can have a seat.

This defense is the strength of the team that's for sure.

4-2 is a good spot to be in. Wasn't pretty tonight but a win is a win.




The defense seems to play a hell of a lot better on the road than they do at home.

nola_swammi 10-25-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 932440)
The defense seems to play a hell of a lot better on the road than they do at home.

Actually, overall that’s great since we only had one home game

cmike 10-25-2021 10:56 PM

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Jameis needs to have his eyes checked out again. He’s not seeing the entire field. There were guys wide open on multiple plays. Instead of taking the easy completion, he’s making bad throws.
The Oline gets a D- for run blocking.

Boston Saint 10-25-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 932440)
The defense seems to play a hell of a lot better on the road than they do at home.

True, but they’ve only had one dome game, right?

Lord_Saint83 10-25-2021 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 932444)
True, but they’ve only had one dome game, right?



I mean even from last year too

bobdog86 10-25-2021 11:19 PM

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Thought Jameis started rusty, we should have had at least 2-3 more scoring drives early. But, I thought he played really well overall. Ran it when he had to. Didn’t force anything. He missed several early targets, his WR’s cost him at least 3 downfield catches…Seattle is a tough place to play….just ask Geno..hah. Demario is a beast, wow. Dennis Allen adjusted his scheme and basically shut down the hawks. Game ball to Allen and also to Pete Carroll for such a ****ty game plan. We did get a little lucky, Seattle’s kicker basically hadn’t missed a kick in 2 years…..so that wasn’t normal. But sometimes you need a little luck….and Metcalf is a punk.

SmashMouth 10-26-2021 12:32 AM

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SmashMouth 10-26-2021 12:33 AM

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neugey 10-26-2021 12:49 AM

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Demario Davis was insane tonight, his best game of the year by far. Davenport is key to the pass rush. And go figure, we finally get in a nip and tuck game in bad weather with long drives where we could use Taysom the most, but he isn't available. Hopefully next game he'll be able to play and take some of the load off Kamara.

MatthewT 10-26-2021 07:14 AM

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I know JW is a bit inaccurate at times, but these WRs and TEs are not doing him any favors. The receivers the Saints have are extremely talented but simply not getting it done. Outside of Harris, after the season both WR and TE positions need a complete rebuild.

K Major 10-26-2021 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 932456)
I know JW is a bit inaccurate at times, but these WRs and TEs are not doing him any favors. The receivers the Saints have are extremely talented but simply not getting it done. Outside of Harris, after the season both WR and TE positions need a complete rebuild.

My thoughts 100.

ChrisXVI 10-26-2021 07:46 AM

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Marcus Davenport’s impact is undeniable. He’s out there bull rushing guys into oblivion.

SaintGnome 10-26-2021 08:01 AM

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Trequan was completely out of sync the entire game and it looked like they were featuring him last night.

Lord_Saint83 10-26-2021 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 932458)
Marcus Davenport’s impact is undeniable. He’s out there bull rushing guys into oblivion.



I was loving it. Nothing is more demoralizing than someone overpowering you and you can’t do nothing about it. A sight for sore eyes

Cruize 10-26-2021 08:09 AM

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-Kamara MVP.
-Demario rivals the Dome Patrol.
-Love me some Adebo. Impact rookie at a brutal position.
-The WR corps is garbage outside of Callaway and Harris. It is not on Winston.
-Understand why they signed Peat. But, they will regret the contract.
-Love a kicker who kicks a straight ball.
-Tough schedule ahead.

jeanpierre 10-26-2021 08:21 AM

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jeanpierre 10-26-2021 08:56 AM

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Quick Takes and Observations:

  • Marcus Davenport is finally maturing into a ProBowl-Caliber DE, he's just got to be more durable; but there's no denying the pressure of moving QBs off their spot...

  • Jameis Winston is getting better at disposing of the ball and not taking sacks; especially good to see him pull it down, run and take the first downs SEA gave him...

  • As I'd posted during game, P Blake Gillikin is not only a terrific talent, but a weapon and playing at an AllPro level which he may not realize in New Orleans market...

  • Speaking of All Pro, DeMario has games like that vs the Bucs, Titans, Bills, and Bucs (toughest stretch in NFL) - WhoDat Nation should torch the 'net if he's not named AllPro...

  • Our Offensive Guards are garbage, swingman Throckmartin was more effective than Ruiz, Peat - not sure why we released Clapp unless he's still not healthy, who's looked better than Peat...

  • Marcus Williams AND Marshon Lattimore looked real bad on the long DK Metcalf ReTD, but it was DK Metcalf, and they shut him out till the end of the game...

  • Sean Payton needs to reduce the wear and tear on AK and get him the ball in space more which clearly was more effective; you signed Ozigbo, use him inside...

  • Know Trautman fumbled, but this is really his first real season of playing; he made a crucial mistake, but it'll get corrected; be patient with him; it's not like he's got Brees to teach him...

  • Can't be patient with TreQuan Smith; didn't like when we drafted him, scouting reports questioned his maturity, mental toughness, and it's evident; move him or cut him...

  • If Sean Payton really wants to send a message to this WR corps, take Callaway's No. 1 jersey away and put Curtis Johnson on notice; drops and poor-effort blocking are unacceptable...

  • Also on WRs - disagree with y'all, talent is there (save TreQuan); they've been underwhelming, but Winston is missing his share of reads as Callaway, Trautman were open for ReTDs...

  • Cudos to the scouting department on K Brian Johnson and finally getting it right; they weren't long kicks, but they were must-have kicks that the rookie got done...

  • Good to see Roby get into the mix more, but Adebo still had some plays that highlighted one of his many strengths - his length; Adebo is what SJB was suppose to be and a 3rd round steal...

  • Question that lingered throughout the game - Why was Malcolm Roach *INACTIVE? Why? Getting Onyemata back will be huge, but we need Roach to rotate at DT3...

  • Perspective - Dennis Allen got a lot of praise by the talking heads, but this was Geno Smith; Why do the Saints continue letting lesser opponents hang around? G'nats loss cost us HomeField...

cmike 10-26-2021 09:10 AM

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JP that was a lot. But I agreed with all of it EXCEPT, Trautman. He’s hurting the team. He’s made crucial mistakes every game. I’m not talking minor things, I’m talking game costing mistakes.
I think he needs to transition back to WR. I don’t know if it’s the extra weight he’s put on to play the TE position but somethings not right with him.
I’ve never wanted a player gone more than Trequan.

K Major 10-26-2021 09:52 AM

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Can anyone name a LB playing better football than Demario Davis? Bobby W? Lavonte? Had to laugh at the replay when I saw Geno scrambling on 3rd down & out of nowhere Demaro appeared :o. Damn near took Geno's head off. Good thing the QB was able to duck.

I love JVilma but IMO Demario is better.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/FlYid...giphy.gif&ct=g

jeanpierre 10-26-2021 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 932470)
JP that was a lot. But I agreed with all of it EXCEPT, Trautman. He’s hurting the team. He’s made crucial mistakes every game. I’m not talking minor things, I’m talking game costing mistakes.
I think he needs to transition back to WR. I don’t know if it’s the extra weight he’s put on to play the TE position but somethings not right with him.
I’ve never wanted a player gone more than Trequan.

Well, here's the thing with Trautman; he came from a small school (Dayton) and he got by on his physical talent at that level (Pioneer Football Conference)...

So he's got to get bulked up to block (that's a year min., kinda like Davenport needed bulk); then he's probably experiencing the first real, in-depth, technical coaching in his life...

And Tight End at the NFL is a number of positions, or skills that have to be mastered; I'd made the same arguments with Dan Arnold of patience...

These guys are coming in and getting coaching and really learning the position for the first time - and it's at the NFL Level!

This is why when it comes to the draft, with the exception of a QB Josh Allen (a QB) who I was high on, I don't like spending multiple picks on small school prospects...

Get the expectations, but like Davenport, it's not really fair to add that pressure, plus the adjustments to the NFL game, life alone are much...

Does Trautman need to step up this season? Don't disagree at all with that part, but he's making progress which is more than we can say for TreQuan and Ruiz right now...

jeanpierre 10-26-2021 10:02 AM

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dizzle88 10-26-2021 10:39 AM

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We'd be sunk without Kamara.

The Receivers are doing nothing for Jameis, Trautman is looking like an even worse version of Dan Arnold.

K Major 10-26-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 932482)
We'd be sunk without Kamara.

The Receivers are doing nothing for Jameis, Trautman is looking like an even worse version of Dan Arnold.

+1.

Alvin was our leading WR in this game and he's not a WR. WR, RG & TE are definitely weak spots. I'd make a move for a WR before the deadline. No guarantees when we'll get Michael back. Brandin Cooks, Allen Robinson, Michael Gallup, etc.

Texans, Miami, Chicago seasons are over. Make a call and see what it will take to make a move.

You need talent at this position.

RailBoss 10-26-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 932482)
We'd be sunk without Kamara.

The Receivers are doing nothing for Jameis, Trautman is looking like an even worse version of Dan Arnold.

Sunk...You ain't just kidding..

RailBoss 10-26-2021 11:18 AM

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I figured Guido would be happy with the FG Kicker, noticed he wasn't around.

saintfan 10-26-2021 11:25 AM

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I never thought I would agree to Brandin Cooks. I agree with Brandin Cooks now. Jameis may not light up the world. Maybe he will. Who knows? Nobody. Because we (a) can't get open and when we do (b) we can't catch.

I'm trying to express how I feel about us right now, and this is pretty much it:

https://caffeinatedrage.files.wordpr...7/04/lolly.jpg

Oh, and we block for :censored:.

We can punt. We can really really punt.

jeanpierre 10-26-2021 12:18 PM

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jeanpierre 10-26-2021 12:26 PM

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Rugby Saint II 10-26-2021 01:50 PM

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Davis is a beast.

Tre'Quan is still a disappointment.

Davenport is playing like I knew he could.

Kpass is the best free agent this year.

We need to invest in a real WR.

Lutz is out for the year but the kid from the Chicago practice squad looked good AFTER his first kick off which was really short.

Peat is trash! And injured again!

We won an ugly game.

jeanpierre 10-26-2021 02:17 PM

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dizzle88 10-26-2021 03:03 PM

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Trequan back for one game and Jameis lays into him, honestly I'm glad.
Nice seeing Winston calling the Receivers out on their BS.

Payton seems to let it go too, like he knows Winston is right.



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