Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans

saintsfan1976 · 11-15-2021, 07:05 PM

Sean Payton says it best:

"Good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose"

RailBoss · 11-15-2021, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Sean Payton says it best:

"Good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose"

What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category.

Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington

K Major · 11-15-2021, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category.

Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington

Surprise surprise.

The Bruce Arians way.

saintsfan1976 · 11-15-2021, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category.

Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington

A dumb coach would know best....

Boutte · 11-15-2021, 07:44 PM

I'm not too bummed by this loss. They hung in till the very end even while tripping over their own feet all day. Siemein is a lot better than what Iexpected too see from a 3rd stringer.

Boston Saint · 11-15-2021, 08:04 PM

I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious.

Boutte · 11-15-2021, 08:13 PM

They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday.

neugey · 11-15-2021, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday.

In the NBA all flagrant fouls are reviewed to determine body positionings, force, intent and impact point. In college they review the targeting calls. So it's wrong to expect NFL refs to be able to determine these variables at full speed. It's obvious that in NFL that all personal fouls should be reviewable. It won't correct every gaffe, but should allow them to get 80+% of the blown calls fixed. Could it make some games a bit longer? Yes, but better that than have the credibility of the sport in constant jeopardy.

Boston Saint · 11-15-2021, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday.

Probably not. I believe the league did say something about mistakes made during the Chicago/Pitt game. Interested to see if they do here.

The Dude · 11-15-2021, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

That’s all nice now when everyone notices it. But it’s a subject I brought up over 6 years ago and it’s something they would have had the foresight to do when they first thought of using replay if they were really interested in getting it right. If these guys running the league are just now considering the idea of standardizing camera angles for review then they are incompetent fools who don’t know how to maintain the “integrity” of the game in the first place. They are three moves too late.

They don’t give a damn about the integrity of the game, all they care about is making rules that allow as many subjective penalties as they can. Refs can flag for taunting basically any time they choose and there’s no real way to measure the accuracy of the call. The NFL has become a freaking joke. I’ll watch my Saints but I am not nearly as emotionally invested in it as I have been in years past and I’m much happier for it. Sunday was the first game I’ve missed in years. I spent the day with my daughter and had a great time. I was a little bummed when I checked the score and saw we had made a comeback but later when I heard about the call on Ellis it I said **** it. I still haven’t watched the recording and I don’t plan on it.

11-15-2021, 07:05 PM	#61
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Sean Payton says it best: "Good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose" RailBoss, SmashMouth and jeanpierre like this.

11-15-2021, 07:16 PM	#62
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Sean Payton says it best: "Good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose" What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category. Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington

11-15-2021, 07:35 PM	#63
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by RailBoss What about "Dumb teams" is this a new category. Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians blasts his 'very dumb football team' after loss to Washington Surprise surprise. The Bruce Arians way. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

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11-15-2021, 08:04 PM	#66
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,868	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans I know it’s beating a dead horse, but has anyone seen or heard an official or league response to the roughing the passer call? Any comment from the ref or statement from the league? Just curious.

11-15-2021, 08:13 PM	#67
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,590 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by Boutte They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday. In the NBA all flagrant fouls are reviewed to determine body positionings, force, intent and impact point. In college they review the targeting calls. So it's wrong to expect NFL refs to be able to determine these variables at full speed. It's obvious that in NFL that all personal fouls should be reviewable. It won't correct every gaffe, but should allow them to get 80+% of the blown calls fixed. Could it make some games a bit longer? Yes, but better that than have the credibility of the sport in constant jeopardy. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-15-2021, 09:50 PM	#69
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,868	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by Boutte They're not going to address it. Why would they? There were probably 30 game changing penalties across called across the League yesterday. Probably not. I believe the league did say something about mistakes made during the Chicago/Pitt game. Interested to see if they do here.

11-15-2021, 10:01 PM	#70
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Titans Originally Posted by Boston Saint That’s all nice now when everyone notices it. But it’s a subject I brought up over 6 years ago and it’s something they would have had the foresight to do when they first thought of using replay if they were really interested in getting it right. If these guys running the league are just now considering the idea of standardizing camera angles for review then they are incompetent fools who don’t know how to maintain the “integrity” of the game in the first place. They are three moves too late. They don’t give a damn about the integrity of the game, all they care about is making rules that allow as many subjective penalties as they can. Refs can flag for taunting basically any time they choose and there’s no real way to measure the accuracy of the call. The NFL has become a freaking joke. I’ll watch my Saints but I am not nearly as emotionally invested in it as I have been in years past and I’m much happier for it. Sunday was the first game I’ve missed in years. I spent the day with my daughter and had a great time. I was a little bummed when I checked the score and saw we had made a comeback but later when I heard about the call on Ellis it I said **** it. I still haven’t watched the recording and I don’t plan on it. jeanpierre, Pete and Boston Saint like this.
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