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Verity..... VERITY ANYONE ?

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We (a BADLY banged up and out of sync team) stuck around against a very good team, on the road. "We" (the Fans) SHOWED UP as always. Keep ya head up!

WHODAT!

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Bro that **** made me laugh so hard!

Look I'll spread a little little love here...

Siemian looks good guys. I know he sucks when he scrambles, but he can sit in that pocket and take lick and deliver the ball. I like him.

Ingram looks great and the receivers seem to be getting better.

Bad is the penalties and the shooting themselves in the foot when they get close to the red zone.

But I actually like the makeup of this team.

Our kicker sucks again though. Lol

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Go claim Jake. We need all of the points we can get.

Boger and his lynch men suck at their jobs. We got hosed on that personal foul call, which led to points. We took an AFC contender down to the wire so it's obvious we can compete.

As badly as we played today, we are only 1 game out of 1st place.

I stand by my pre-season prediction of 9-7 but I'm on to Philly.

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You might want to adjust that prediction. We're playing 17 games. ;)

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I think you know what I meant. Jesus :rolleyes:

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It was freakin' humor. What's your problem, K? Wow!

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Marcus Davenport is a stud.

Ingram left it all out on the field.

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Call me crazy, but James Hurst has looked just fine at LT. With Armstead being a free agent after this season I’m starting to feel pretty comfortable with Hurst being our LT.

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Davenport is easily the bright spot on that d-line. Ingram was hustlin’ too, he needs to be more involved in the gameplan

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We may have lost the last 2 games, but the last 2 games has proved to me that Trevor Siemian is the QB we need to go forward with. If we had Kamara today, we would have won. We still should have won the game anyways. Siemian seems to perform particularly well in the clutch(we've been rocking the 4th qtrs). If we had Michael Thomas, we may be competing for a Super Bowl this year. There are still some major problems on this team that need to be addressed. We need to fix a few things on the O-line and we need some people to throw to. I think we can address both of those things in the draft. If we don't address those things in the draft, I'm going to be incredibly pissed. I know most people are down, but I think the future is bright.

Also, we should have never kicked that FG in the 4th Qrter. It makes no statistical sense at all. You are going to have to get a 2 point conversion anyways if you kick the FG. Going for the TD there would have had us much closer to the goal-line. Kicking the FG was the wrong choice. As soon as it was 4th down there, we would have to convert a 1 down play in the game no matter what. Even if we don't get it there, we would have also had a better chance of getting two possessions as they would have had to deal with being backed up at the 1.

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Look. I know that Kickers are weird but how are they missing these chip shots? I played kicker and punter in a pinch (at the high school level) and for the life of me I can't understand how they screw this up.

That said, big players are not suiting up for the Saints. They're on to their "3rd string" QB, they don't have a Kicker, the stud RB is out, the stud LT is out (of course :rolleyes:) and the prima donna WR sold out this season. The Saints are doing just enough to be close in these games but can't seem to finish, which is pretty impressive considering the odds against them.

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I don’t know fellas… Just enjoy the ride. We’ll win some more games but we aren’t going to make a postseason run; and that’s ok. There are too many deficiencies in the passing game.

Next year we’re roughly $50 million over the cap with only 39 players under contract so I don’t know how we fix it.

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Penalties are troublesome.

Take the ping pong tables, party/strobe lights out of the locker room.

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Don't forget that extra points are now 33 yards. They should still be made, but they used to be 13 yards closer. It's not quite a chip shot anymore.

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Agreed.
I think at this point we hope that Siemian continues to improve and shows he's the QB of next season at least, I think he has done well so far.

I think serious things have to be considered, if I were Payton, I'd deactivate Trautman the rest of the way.
I think the offense line has to be dismantled this offseason, keep McCoy and Ram, get rid of Ruiz, Armstead and Peat.

Completely overhaul WR too, if that means Thomas then so be it.

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Have you looked at the rest of the NFC? 9-8 could easily be in the NFC field.

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Here’s an if. If Trautman isn’t on the team we’re 8-1. He’s cost us big time.

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We have 3 NFC losses so far, 2 divisional. I don't think we'd qualify even if we did reach 9-8.

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I didn't forget. And it's still a chip shot.

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It doesn't matter if everyone else has a worse record. There are only six teams in the NFC with a winning record right now. Only one at .500 currently, as well. Seven teams reach the tourney. Someone will make it at 9-8. Hell, 8-9 might get a team there.

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35 yards and under is routine for kickers at this level. Rookie or not.

You are 100 % correct. Johnson also missed a PAT last week.

Inexcusable.

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I know… but making the playoffs and making a playoff run are different things. I’m advocating for just finding beauty in the journey and what we can learn in the process because it isn’t Super Bowl or bust anymore.

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"Beauty in the Journey" I like that Chris.

Once I got over the ridiculous roughing the QB call and calmed down I looked at Coach Payton.
Here's a guy who is dealing with all the players he's got and all the players he don't got. I know he get's paid the big bucks but the guy is working it every minute.
Besides getting dealt terrible hands each week he has kept the team competitive. Simple extra points, dropped balls and stupid penalties you name it we got it all.
And still that roughing the passer call was the most disgusting, flagrant, game changing call actually pretty close to that beauty against the Rams.

But I'm trying real hard to live up to and see the "Beauty in the Journey"

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I actually like Siemian better than Winston so far. I think he's played well.

But damn...those penalties, missed XPs and stupid ass dropped passes are killers. Brutal.

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We are an elite receiver away from being able to hang with anyone. We need to find one…oh wait, we already have one, on paper anyway.
Seriously though, if we had Thomas we could get it done. It was a mistake putting all our eggs in one basket without even attempting to find a number 2 in the offseason. Yes, salary cap, I know, but it could have been done.
Having a kicker would help too. This offseason will be interesting.
Houston should be ashamed of themselves for almost losing to an offense cobbled together with a bunch of practice squad players.

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-The season is still in front of the Saints.
-Even with all of the starters being out, the Saints are still competing.
-Lutz is arguably the biggest loss.
-Penalties, drops, Turnovers, and mistakes have to be cleaned up.
-For a great coach with enough talent on offense, the failed 2 point streak is astounding.
-I still believe in this team.

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Ram is the next LT - he was paid as one.

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Armstead is gone I think. Bless his heart he just can't stay on the field for an extended period.

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Yes. Inexcusable. I agree. Especially THREE misses in two games. That's why his ass is gone. But, while 35 and under is routine, it is anything but automatic like the old point after. That's why they picked that distance. Just checked and there were 89 missed extra point attempts across the league in 2020. That's even more than I expected.

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My take? With Michael Thomas and Jameis Winston both healthy we’d be #1 in the division right now. We’ve lost too much.

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I know I’m bi***in here but today’s referees are ruining our game.

Taunting, phantom roughing the passer calls need to be reviewed.

Huddle up and get it right.

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Too many judgement calls being made at crucial times affecting the final score.

And the NFL sure has become cozy with the gambling aspect. While the NFL flatly refuses to address the officiating in any meaningful way, and with so many viable options, it just makes one take a serious look at what could really be going on here.

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I agree that the Saints miss having Thomas on the field but I don't think that there's much drop off from Winston to Siemian at QB. Winston is the class clown and many players love him but he also seems to play more recklessly.

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And this is where the “proof” of rigged games lies to me. Look at that Steeler/Bear game the other night. They’ve admitted they screwed it up and there is NO CONSEQUENCE! There never is. From this game to the no call PI in the NFC playoffs, there are numerous times the NFL has screwed up calls and admitted it yet they continue to take no actions to improve. People still eat it up. They don’t care. Some wouldn’t care if the league admitted it was fixed because they still would watch because they don’t know who they will fix it for and weather it will be enough to change the outcome. The league darlings teams that always get the calls make up probably 60 plus percent of NFL fans. As long as the league made those groups happy and give other teams the shaft, they still would have viewers and still would be making millions.

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No crap! Giving up (Not getting) extra points has killed the team!!!! And Payton has done what he can to address it. I know Verity’s name is one a lot of people have wanted. I don’t know why that has not happened or if he would have been the answer. But at least they have tried different kickers.