Why Book is the man for the job

MatthewT · 11-22-2021, 07:18 AM

I understand the love for Book and feel he would be very good in the short passing game and as a threat to take off and run. My concern with Book is he doesn't look to have the accuracy or arm to throw past 10-15 yards.

halloween 65 · 11-22-2021, 09:21 AM

Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success.

Rugby Saint II · 11-23-2021, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success.

And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

AsylumGuido · 11-23-2021, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

Correct. Brady played in one game his first season and threw three passes completing one. He didn't play again until Drew Bledsoe went down the next year.

K Major · 11-27-2021, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention.

If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one.

Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common?

Both are former 4th rounders

...

At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

saintfan · 11-27-2021, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention.

If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one.

Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common?

Both are former 4th rounders ...

At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

AsylumGuido · 11-27-2021, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention.

If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one.

Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common?

Both are former 4th rounders ...

At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

This is the absolute upside of 90% of QB's coming out of college into the NFL. Holding a clipboard is a pretty good living if you can hang in there.

saintfan · 11-22-2021, 11:15 AM

I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play!

Oh, sorry. Flashback...

neugey · 11-22-2021, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play!

Oh, sorry. Flashback...

And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible.

AsylumGuido · 11-22-2021, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible.

That "one that got away" was soon replaced by some guy named Brees.

Had we kept Delhomme we would have never had Drew. Sometimes the best moves made are the ones that weren't made. Jake was going 4-7 with the Panthers in 2009 while Brees was leading us to our first Lombardi.

11-22-2021, 07:18 AM	#1
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Why Book is the man for the job I understand the love for Book and feel he would be very good in the short passing game and as a threat to take off and run. My concern with Book is he doesn't look to have the accuracy or arm to throw past 10-15 yards. K Major likes this.

11-22-2021, 09:21 AM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success. neugey likes this.

11-23-2021, 03:07 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by halloween 65 Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success. And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

11-23-2021, 03:13 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year. Correct. Brady played in one game his first season and threw three passes completing one. He didn't play again until Drew Bledsoe went down the next year.

11-27-2021, 10:44 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year. I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention. If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one. Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common? Both are former 4th rounders ... At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder. saintfan, jnormand and neugey like this.

11-27-2021, 11:48 AM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by K Major I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention. If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one. Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common? Both are former 4th rounders ... At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder.

11-27-2021, 12:19 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by K Major I'm starting to accept the fact that we are out of contention. If we show little to nothing on next Thursday vs Cows, I'd be all for inserting Ian. The last thing we need to do is go into 2022 with more question marks & possibly another season looking for a QB. We kinda know what we have in Taysom & Winston. I'd like to see if Mr. Notre Dame has a platform to build on. If not, draft another one. Up my way, I remember Dallas deciding to start Dak as a rookie & now he's a franchise QB. What does Dak and Ian have in common? Both are former 4th rounders ... At this point, I'm not understanding why CSP and Carmichael are holding Ian back unless they see him as a career clipboard holder. This is the absolute upside of 90% of QB's coming out of college into the NFL. Holding a clipboard is a pretty good living if you can hang in there.

11-22-2021, 11:15 AM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Book is the man for the job I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play! Oh, sorry. Flashback... MatthewT, neugey, AsylumGuido and 3 others like this.

11-22-2021, 05:51 PM	#9
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by saintfan I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play! Oh, sorry. Flashback... And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible. Thirty3 likes this.

11-22-2021, 05:56 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by neugey And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible. That "one that got away" was soon replaced by some guy named Brees. Had we kept Delhomme we would have never had Drew. Sometimes the best moves made are the ones that weren't made. Jake was going 4-7 with the Panthers in 2009 while Brees was leading us to our first Lombardi. leilung likes this.