Why Book is the man for the job

neugey · 11-22-2021, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I take it you are a Notre Dame fan. Admittedly I really don't follow college football hardly at all beyond NC State, but I had never heard of Ian Book until we drafted him. It doesn't seem as though the front office sees him as more than a project at this point and I trust their judgement since their goal is to win games, not to see what we have. Early in the season a caller asked former Notre Dame HC Charlie Weis about Book and Weis said he likes Book a lot, but added that Book is no where near prepared to take snaps in an NFL game, but may be at some point in the future and that would be at some point beyond this season or the next when the caller asked when.

Not a Notre Dame fan. Just watching college football over the last few years and Book really caught my eye, and over time my belief in Book has grown - with that win over Clemson being a real high point. Yes my belief in Book is a little irrational ... it's something that cannot be really explained.

Looking back, this has only happened to me with one other player - Nick Van Exel. Similar situation - saw the Cincinnati games and Van Exel popped off the screen and before long I could not shake this strong feeling that this was exactly the guard the Lakers needed to help them win (or at least keep them out of the basement) in the post-Magic era. Lo and behold Jerry West and the Lakers also saw the sleeper potential in Van Exel and stole him in the second round. From there, "Nick at Nite" Van Exel became a starter and showed clutch ability and for a period of years kept the Lakers competitive and close to .500, even if not quite playoff caliber. Without him, the Lakers would have been cellar dwellars.

Feel very much the same way about Book - a gigantic hunch that Book is destined to be a very good player and like Van Exel it is serendipity that my pro team drafted him. And we are in a better spot personnel and coaching wise than those 90's Lakers - I think he has what it takes to the continue the winning tradition Brees established, albeit with a different style of play.

Whenever Book gets his chance to shine I think you will all see how great of a fit he will be. Especially if Payton calls plays to his strengths and we do a lot more QB rollout and moving the pocket. It will reinvigorate our offense. Pretty sure I'll be asking for a Book jersey for Christmas regardless of how this goes.

halloween 65 · 11-22-2021, 10:21 AM

Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success.

saintfan · 11-22-2021, 12:15 PM

I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play!

Oh, sorry. Flashback...

neugey · 11-22-2021, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play!

Oh, sorry. Flashback...

And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible.

AsylumGuido · 11-22-2021, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible.

That "one that got away" was soon replaced by some guy named Brees.

Had we kept Delhomme we would have never had Drew. Sometimes the best moves made are the ones that weren't made. Jake was going 4-7 with the Panthers in 2009 while Brees was leading us to our first Lombardi.

neugey · 11-22-2021, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That "one that got away" was soon replaced by some guy named Brees. Had we kept Delhomme we would have never had Drew. Sometimes the best moves made are the ones that weren't made. Jake was going 4-7 with the Panthers in 2009 while Brees was leading us to our first Lombardi.

Fair point - wasn't thinking that far ahead, just remembering the Aaron Brooks roller coaster we had going on for about a 5-year span.

AsylumGuido · 11-22-2021, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Fair point - wasn't thinking that far ahead, just remembering the Aaron Brooks roller coaster we had going on for about a 5-year span.

I remember that well. Also remember the Jeff Blake, Billy Joe's, Heath Shuler, and Jim Everett years leading up to Brooks.

Rugby Saint II · 11-23-2021, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success.

And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

AsylumGuido · 11-23-2021, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

Correct. Brady played in one game his first season and threw three passes completing one. He didn't play again until Drew Bledsoe went down the next year.

Saintsfan4ever · 11-23-2021, 09:00 PM

Ian is the man for the job.... if the job description is holding the clipboard.

Somebody wake me up when this season is over,
unless
Sean get's a brain enema and realizes he's not going to resurrect his Brees-pocket-QB-offense with either Aaron Brooks 2.0 or Poor-choice Slim, and he starts the proper QB that earned this spot last year.

11-22-2021, 10:07 AM	#21
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I take it you are a Notre Dame fan. Admittedly I really don't follow college football hardly at all beyond NC State, but I had never heard of Ian Book until we drafted him. It doesn't seem as though the front office sees him as more than a project at this point and I trust their judgement since their goal is to win games, not to see what we have. Early in the season a caller asked former Notre Dame HC Charlie Weis about Book and Weis said he likes Book a lot, but added that Book is no where near prepared to take snaps in an NFL game, but may be at some point in the future and that would be at some point beyond this season or the next when the caller asked when. Not a Notre Dame fan. Just watching college football over the last few years and Book really caught my eye, and over time my belief in Book has grown - with that win over Clemson being a real high point. Yes my belief in Book is a little irrational ... it's something that cannot be really explained. Looking back, this has only happened to me with one other player - Nick Van Exel. Similar situation - saw the Cincinnati games and Van Exel popped off the screen and before long I could not shake this strong feeling that this was exactly the guard the Lakers needed to help them win (or at least keep them out of the basement) in the post-Magic era. Lo and behold Jerry West and the Lakers also saw the sleeper potential in Van Exel and stole him in the second round. From there, "Nick at Nite" Van Exel became a starter and showed clutch ability and for a period of years kept the Lakers competitive and close to .500, even if not quite playoff caliber. Without him, the Lakers would have been cellar dwellars. Feel very much the same way about Book - a gigantic hunch that Book is destined to be a very good player and like Van Exel it is serendipity that my pro team drafted him. And we are in a better spot personnel and coaching wise than those 90's Lakers - I think he has what it takes to the continue the winning tradition Brees established, albeit with a different style of play. Whenever Book gets his chance to shine I think you will all see how great of a fit he will be. Especially if Payton calls plays to his strengths and we do a lot more QB rollout and moving the pocket. It will reinvigorate our offense. Pretty sure I'll be asking for a Book jersey for Christmas regardless of how this goes. SmashMouth likes this.

11-22-2021, 10:21 AM	#22
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success. neugey likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Book is the man for the job I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play! Oh, sorry. Flashback... MatthewT, neugey, AsylumGuido and 3 others like this.

11-22-2021, 06:51 PM	#24
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by saintfan I want Jake! I want Jake! Let's see Delhomme. Put Jake in! Let Jake Play! Oh, sorry. Flashback... And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible. Thirty3 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by neugey And history is on the fans' side, as Jake ended up being productive in Carolina and was the "one that got away". It behooves us not to make the same mistake again, if possible. That "one that got away" was soon replaced by some guy named Brees. Had we kept Delhomme we would have never had Drew. Sometimes the best moves made are the ones that weren't made. Jake was going 4-7 with the Panthers in 2009 while Brees was leading us to our first Lombardi. leilung likes this.

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11-22-2021, 07:14 PM	#26
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That "one that got away" was soon replaced by some guy named Brees. Had we kept Delhomme we would have never had Drew. Sometimes the best moves made are the ones that weren't made. Jake was going 4-7 with the Panthers in 2009 while Brees was leading us to our first Lombardi. Fair point - wasn't thinking that far ahead, just remembering the Aaron Brooks roller coaster we had going on for about a 5-year span.

11-22-2021, 07:24 PM	#27
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by neugey Fair point - wasn't thinking that far ahead, just remembering the Aaron Brooks roller coaster we had going on for about a 5-year span. I remember that well. Also remember the Jeff Blake, Billy Joe's, Heath Shuler, and Jim Everett years leading up to Brooks.

11-23-2021, 04:07 PM	#28
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by halloween 65 Trail by fire. I'm all for trying Book out. Other players have had success that way.Some have had great success. And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year.

11-23-2021, 04:13 PM	#29
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,214	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II And some have been mentally broken, which is my fear for Book. I'm good with giving him a few games if we are well out of contention so that we see better what Book has to offer. He is a fourth round pick who needs seasoning before throwing NFL defenses against him. He doesn't need trial by fire. That may work for first round draft picks. I'm guessing that Brady didn't get the start until there were no other options and even then probably not in his first year. Correct. Brady played in one game his first season and threw three passes completing one. He didn't play again until Drew Bledsoe went down the next year.

11-23-2021, 09:00 PM	#30
Saintsfan4ever 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Moss Point, MS Posts: 612 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Why Book is the man for the job Ian is the man for the job.... if the job description is holding the clipboard. Somebody wake me up when this season is over, unless Sean get's a brain enema and realizes he's not going to resurrect his Brees-pocket-QB-offense with either Aaron Brooks 2.0 or Poor-choice Slim, and he starts the proper QB that earned this spot last year. K Major likes this.