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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Forget it. Whatever you say. You argue over the stupidest ****....

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Old 11-23-2021, 01:15 PM   #61
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Forget it. Whatever you say. You argue over the stupidest ****.

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Old 11-23-2021, 01:20 PM   #62
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Amnesia is a cruel disease.
When Taysom was exclusively on Special Teams he was the best player field.
When Taysom joined the offense under Brees, he excelled at all the skill positions. Especially moving the chains on short yardage like nobody else on the team could.
When Brees went down last year, Taysom started at QB. He was 3-1 (so please stop it with the "let's try him & see how he does". That test has been run. Check!).
So, all last off-season Taysom trains & conditions exclusively for the QB position. But, he ended up not being the starter, and then immediately got thrown back into the Swiss-Army role that he didn't condition his body for. And now he's hurt. Big fkng Surprise!
When Taysom is healthy, he should be the starting QB because he's earned it & proven it. End of Fkng story!
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Old 11-23-2021, 01:26 PM   #63
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Come on, he isn't that bad, ice.
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At this point in the season, I have no issues with Taysom taking over as starter.

I think Trevor did as best he could under the circumstances he was given. I don't think he did awful by any means. He made some plays.

Regardless of WR issues, injuries, penalties and defensive and offensive meltdowns, you either stick with Trevor for the remainder of the season and see if he can right the ship. Or you see if Taysom can come in and provide a spark.

Both come with their own set of positives and negatives.

IMO, if you're gonna make a change to QB or if you're gonna stick wth Trevor, you make the commitment now before it's too late.

Guess we'll see what happens on Thursday. Should be an exciting day.
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Old 11-23-2021, 02:15 PM   #65
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Funny thing is all Isaid was “ IDK about a steal. 96 mill would be 24/ season”. He then proceeds to try and convince me that I’m wrong and 24 million a year is a steal for a QB. I’m just not looking at it right.

Yet I argue over meaningless points.
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Hey Boston check these salaries out for next year! AG does have a point but I still don't believe Taysom will be our starting QB for the next 4 years.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2022/
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Hey Boston check these salaries out for next year! AG does have a point but I still don't believe Taysom will be our starting QB for the next 4 years.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2022/
thanks for the link and it does support his point about salaries going up. But it also shows 24+ as being middle of the pack. And when you see guys like Stafford, Murray, Brady making less than that I find it hard to see 24 million being a steal. If he pulls a Kurt Warner and set the league on fire I’ll call that a steal.
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Funny thing is all Isaid was “ IDK about a steal. 96 mill would be 24/ season”. He then proceeds to try and convince me that I’m wrong and 24 million a year is a steal for a QB. I’m just not looking at it right.

Yet I argue over meaningless points.
That Guido chump is full of crap and himself... such a tool
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Re: Taysom Hill, Saints Reportedly Agree to 'Unique' Hybrid Contract Worth Up to $95M

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Funny thing is all Isaid was “ IDK about a steal. 96 mill would be 24/ season”. He then proceeds to try and convince me that I’m wrong and 24 million a year is a steal for a QB. I’m just not looking at it right.

Yet I argue over meaningless points.
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Hey Boston check these salaries out for next year! AG does have a point but I still don't believe Taysom will be our starting QB for the next 4 years.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2022/
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thanks for the link and it does support his point about salaries going up. But it also shows 24+ as being middle of the pack. And when you see guys like Stafford, Murray, Brady making less than that I find it hard to see 24 million being a steal. If he pulls a Kurt Warner and set the league on fire I’ll call that a steal.
This was the comment I was addressing: "Bottom line is even with your projections, signing a guy to a 24 million a year deal to be your QB at best puts you in the middle of the pack salary wise. That’s hardly a steal. It’s par for the course at best."

The point I was making is that IF Hill starts for all four years the $24 million average would be a steal as compared to other starters over that same four year stretch. And IF Hill is still starting after four years then it can be easily assumed he is having success as the starter. The starting QB salary is perhaps the easiest to project out into the future now that the new CBA and the broadcast partnerships are in place. There have been projections placing the top NFL QB salaries at over $50 million per year average by 2025. Not a stretch at all given the top starter cap hits are already over $40 million in 2022. Starter averages could be around $30-$35 million by that point.

It's all basic economics, cost accounting, and business law. Present cost and values versus future costs and values in a contractually controlled rising economic environment.

IF Hill doesn't start all four years he isn't getting the full $55 million in incentives and therefore isn't going to be averaging the full $24 million per year. There's really nothing to lose.

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:57 AM   #70
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IF and WHAT IF are interchangeable and one of the legs that hold up the B&G "FOUR HOARSE MEN" table of the B&G. COULD'A, WOULD'A, SHOULD'A being the other three. It' the table the Lombardi rests in all it's glory!!!!!
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