THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE.

dizzle88 · 11-29-2021, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yet he had FOUR tackles on that first drive. I don't remember a missed tackle. He was barely able to get a hand on Knox on that play. That wouldn't qualify as a missed tackle. He came into the game as the NFL's 2nd ranked safety according to Pro Football Focus. Kevin Byard was 1st.

Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen though. He read the play well and ran at Knox, then just tapped his Jersey slightly.

dizzle88 · 11-29-2021, 05:52 PM

I've included some pictures of the TD.
First picture, Marcus squaring him up to tackle.
Second picture, Marcus grabbing dust.

AsylumGuido · 11-29-2021, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I've included some pictures of the TD.
First picture, Marcus squaring him up to tackle.
Second picture, Marcus grabbing dust.

He got faked out. It happens. Doesn't bother me.

Lord_Saint83 · 11-29-2021, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I've included some pictures of the TD.
First picture, Marcus squaring him up to tackle.
Second picture, Marcus grabbing dust.

Even Demario gets beat, juked, or misses a tackle sometimes. Like AG said it happens. The kid is still a top 5 free safety all day everyday

Boston Saint · 11-29-2021, 06:26 PM

I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out issues the defense has. Philly ran it down their throats. They couldn’t hold lead against Atl and NY. They aren’t getting much QB pressure and, when they do, they don’t contain the QB well. It was fantastic that they held Buff to 10 first half points. But it wasn’t a dominating performance. For the most part Bills drove from drive 1 and D couldn’t stop them but for the Ints. And the Bills scored on drive 1 of the first half and drive 1 of the second. Don’t want to hear the “tired” excuses. Offense sucked big time. Defense was average.

Sinner · 11-29-2021, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out issues the defense has. Philly ran it down their throats. They couldn’t hold lead against Atl and NY. They aren’t getting much QB pressure and, when they do, they don’t contain the QB well. It was fantastic that they held Buff to 10 first half points. But it wasn’t a dominating performance. For the most part Bills drove from drive 1 and D couldn’t stop them but for the Ints. And the Bills scored on drive 1 of the first half and drive 1 of the second. Don’t want to hear the “tired” excuses. Offense sucked big time. Defense was average.

EXACTLY.

voodooido · 11-29-2021, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

So we have to win without scoring points? Its a team sport and our formula to win requires great defense and ok offense. If the offense is worse than ok, thats not on the defense.

Agree completely. See the ravens and Trent dilfer. Am avg offense that used ball control with a dominant defense.

jnormand · 11-29-2021, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out issues the defense has. Philly ran it down their throats. They couldn’t hold lead against Atl and NY. They aren’t getting much QB pressure and, when they do, they don’t contain the QB well. It was fantastic that they held Buff to 10 first half points. But it wasn’t a dominating performance. For the most part Bills drove from drive 1 and D couldn’t stop them but for the Ints. And the Bills scored on drive 1 of the first half and drive 1 of the second. Don’t want to hear the “tired” excuses. Offense sucked big time. Defense was average.

Oh don't forget how our DBs do their little hand shake and dance when we're getting the **** kicked out of us in the 4th quarter with no chance of coming back. But hey...they did their job and batted a pass or had good coverage and have to celebrate all cute like a bunch of ****in losers. Lol.

TheOak · 11-30-2021, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out issues the defense has. Philly ran it down their throats. They couldn’t hold lead against Atl and NY. They aren’t getting much QB pressure and, when they do, they don’t contain the QB well. It was fantastic that they held Buff to 10 first half points. But it wasn’t a dominating performance. For the most part Bills drove from drive 1 and D couldn’t stop them but for the Ints. And the Bills scored on drive 1 of the first half and drive 1 of the second. Don’t want to hear the “tired” excuses. Offense sucked big time. Defense was average.

No, Philly didn't run it down our throats. Josh Allen ran it down our throats the two RBs averaged 2.9 YPC.

You don't rush and contain a QB at the same time. If you sack him he is contained, if you fail to sack him he is gone. It is one or the other with very different approaches. Pressure and containment do not go hand in hand.

Rugby Saint II · 11-30-2021, 10:38 AM

I'm not expecting much from the team this week or the rest of the year to be honest. Next year however has a different feel to me as usual. Hope springs eternal!

11-29-2021, 05:48 PM	#21
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yet he had FOUR tackles on that first drive. I don't remember a missed tackle. He was barely able to get a hand on Knox on that play. That wouldn't qualify as a missed tackle. He came into the game as the NFL's 2nd ranked safety according to Pro Football Focus. Kevin Byard was 1st. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen though. He read the play well and ran at Knox, then just tapped his Jersey slightly.

11-29-2021, 05:52 PM	#22
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. I've included some pictures of the TD. First picture, Marcus squaring him up to tackle. Second picture, Marcus grabbing dust. Attached Thumbnails jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-29-2021, 05:57 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. Originally Posted by dizzle88 I've included some pictures of the TD. First picture, Marcus squaring him up to tackle. Second picture, Marcus grabbing dust. He got faked out. It happens. Doesn't bother me.

11-29-2021, 06:11 PM	#24
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. Originally Posted by dizzle88 I've included some pictures of the TD. First picture, Marcus squaring him up to tackle. Second picture, Marcus grabbing dust. Even Demario gets beat, juked, or misses a tackle sometimes. Like AG said it happens. The kid is still a top 5 free safety all day everyday AsylumGuido likes this.

11-29-2021, 06:26 PM	#25
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11-29-2021, 06:40 PM	#26
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. Originally Posted by Boston Saint I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out issues the defense has. Philly ran it down their throats. They couldn’t hold lead against Atl and NY. They aren’t getting much QB pressure and, when they do, they don’t contain the QB well. It was fantastic that they held Buff to 10 first half points. But it wasn’t a dominating performance. For the most part Bills drove from drive 1 and D couldn’t stop them but for the Ints. And the Bills scored on drive 1 of the first half and drive 1 of the second. Don’t want to hear the “tired” excuses. Offense sucked big time. Defense was average. EXACTLY.
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11-29-2021, 10:11 PM	#27
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. Originally Posted by BakoSaint So we have to win without scoring points? Its a team sport and our formula to win requires great defense and ok offense. If the offense is worse than ok, thats not on the defense. Agree completely. See the ravens and Trent dilfer. Am avg offense that used ball control with a dominant defense.
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11-29-2021, 11:10 PM	#28
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. Originally Posted by Boston Saint I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out issues the defense has. Philly ran it down their throats. They couldn’t hold lead against Atl and NY. They aren’t getting much QB pressure and, when they do, they don’t contain the QB well. It was fantastic that they held Buff to 10 first half points. But it wasn’t a dominating performance. For the most part Bills drove from drive 1 and D couldn’t stop them but for the Ints. And the Bills scored on drive 1 of the first half and drive 1 of the second. Don’t want to hear the “tired” excuses. Offense sucked big time. Defense was average. Oh don't forget how our DBs do their little hand shake and dance when we're getting the ** kicked out of us in the 4th quarter with no chance of coming back. But hey...they did their job and batted a pass or had good coverage and have to celebrate all cute like a bunch of **in losers. Lol. Boston Saint likes this.

11-30-2021, 08:48 AM	#29
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. Originally Posted by Boston Saint I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out issues the defense has. Philly ran it down their throats. They couldn’t hold lead against Atl and NY. They aren’t getting much QB pressure and, when they do, they don’t contain the QB well. It was fantastic that they held Buff to 10 first half points. But it wasn’t a dominating performance. For the most part Bills drove from drive 1 and D couldn’t stop them but for the Ints. And the Bills scored on drive 1 of the first half and drive 1 of the second. Don’t want to hear the “tired” excuses. Offense sucked big time. Defense was average. No, Philly didn't run it down our throats. Josh Allen ran it down our throats the two RBs averaged 2.9 YPC. You don't rush and contain a QB at the same time. If you sack him he is contained, if you fail to sack him he is gone. It is one or the other with very different approaches. Pressure and containment do not go hand in hand. jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: THURSDAY NIGHT IS ON THE DEFENSE. I'm not expecting much from the team this week or the rest of the year to be honest. Next year however has a different feel to me as usual. Hope springs eternal!