Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out?

jeanpierre · 12-07-2021, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'd prefer going to the the playoffs and winning it all, of course, but I was wondering what choice between this two options. Which of the two scenarios would you prefer, JP? Pretty straight forward.

Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different...

We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season...

As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season...

If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)...

In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding...

And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength...

But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season...

However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday...

But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements...

So that's my reply, AG...

Sinner · 12-07-2021, 12:46 AM

"You play to win the game!"

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2021, 10:53 AM

As things currently stand we have better odds (26%) of making the playoffs than getting a top five pick (less than 1%).

With our win over the Bucs this weekend those playoff odds should climb even more!

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2021, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different...

We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season...

As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season...

If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)...

In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding...

And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength...

But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season...

However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday...

But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements...

So that's my reply, AG...

I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2.

jeanpierre · 12-07-2021, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different...

We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season...

As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season...

If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)...

In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding...

And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength...

But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season...

However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday...

But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements...

So that's my reply, AG...

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2.

AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL...

AsylumGuido · 12-07-2021, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL...

So your choice between 1.) losing the last five and 2.) winning the last five is ?.) winning all unless losing to the Jets, then lose all except for Atlanta.

Okay.

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12-07-2021, 12:39 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'd prefer going to the the playoffs and winning it all, of course, but I was wondering what choice between this two options. Which of the two scenarios would you prefer, JP? Pretty straight forward. Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different... We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season... As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season... If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)... In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding... And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength... But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season... However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday... But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements... So that's my reply, AG... Rell&Gold likes this.
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12-07-2021, 12:46 AM	#2
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12-15-2021, 10:53 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? As things currently stand we have better odds (26%) of making the playoffs than getting a top five pick (less than 1%). With our win over the Bucs this weekend those playoff odds should climb even more!

12-07-2021, 07:30 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different... We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season... As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season... If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)... In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding... And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength... But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season... However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday... But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements... So that's my reply, AG... I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2.

12-07-2021, 10:44 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing, while I'm usually the realist and not blinded by fandom that I don't withhold criticism of the team, coaches, or players, this season is different... We've an extra game this year and there's gonna be a lot of dangerous teams make the playoffs the last week of the season... As much of a tailspin as our season has taken with injuries and some occisional bone-head play calling, we've beaten some pretty good teams this season... If the playoffs were today, those teams would be the AFC No. 1 seed (Pats), NFC No. 2 seed (Packers), NFC No. 3 seed (Bucs), NFC No. 6 seed (Redskins)... In fact, the Saints have the best record in the NFL vs strongest teams - Imagine That; and it may work against us in draft seeding... And I truly believe the table was set against us vs the Cowboys; considering Saints unavailable, Taysom's brave, injured performance, we had those MoFos at full strength... But if we lose another game, don't think we make the playoffs even if we get Kamara, Ramczyk, Davenport, Tanoh, Gardner, Cam Jordan, and Trautman back this season... However, if we can squeak it out, get those names back, Taysom can tough it out through the tournament, well, as the saying goes, any given Sunday... But if we lose one more game, say the Jets, I'd tank all games except ATL, so we could move up in the draft and get the best possible roster reinforcements... So that's my reply, AG... Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I get that, JP. But, between the two options, which would you prefer? As I explained, neither would be my preference, but given the choice between the two every loss takes a piece of my heart. I went with #2. AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL...

12-07-2021, 11:59 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Which would you want? Win Out or Lose Out? Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, gave that answer in my conclusion statement Brother - but, I can't agree with losing to the ATL... So your choice between 1.) losing the last five and 2.) winning the last five is ?.) winning all unless losing to the Jets, then lose all except for Atlanta. Okay. Rell&Gold likes this.

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