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The Dude 12-20-2021 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 939127)
Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after tonight. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long.
Working under Payton for so many years has to be a plus.
If Winston could have stayed healthy we would have had a legitimate shot with the defense we have right now. Taysom would be in his regular role and our offense would be able to do just enough to keep us ahead in close games.
Damn shame we didn’t have this defense when Brees was in his prime.

Also, what is it with Brady getting pissed off at defenders just for doing their job? He acts like a sack or interception is breaking the rules. Dudes truly an elitist who believes he doesn’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
I’ve never liked him but last night showed me just how much of a POS he really is.

dizzle88 12-20-2021 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 939128)
Working under Payton for so many years has to be a plus.
If Winston could have stayed healthy we would have had a legitimate shot with the defense we have right now. Taysom would be in his regular role and our offense would be able to do just enough to keep us ahead in close games.
Damn shame we didn’t have this defense when Brees was in his prime.

Also, what is it with Brady getting pissed off at defenders just for doing their job? He acts like a sack or interception is breaking the rules. Dudes truly an elitist who believes he doesn’t have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
I’ve never liked him but last night showed me just how much of a POS he really is.
Honestly, people will say he's a competitor but he's such a sore loser it's unreal.

After the pick he ran over and shouted at one of our coaches too, guy is a grade A tool.

K Major 12-20-2021 06:36 PM
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If Adam Gase :rolleyes: can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen?

He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach.

K Major 12-20-2021 06:40 PM
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Panthers, Giants, and Texans could all have HC vacancies once the 2021 season is complete.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2021 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 939127)
Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after last night. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long.
Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try.

Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season.

Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know.

Boston Saint 12-20-2021 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 939130)
If Adam Gase :rolleyes: can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen?

He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach.
Especially considering the franchise he coached for. Not many coaches have had success with the raiders since Gruden left the first time.

RailBoss 12-20-2021 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 939127)
Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after last night. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long.
That someone could be the Saints, with all the unreliable rumors flying around about SP getting offers from other Cities.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2021 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 939134)
That someone could be the Saints, with all the unreliable rumors flying around about SP getting offers from other Cities.
LOL!

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 939132)
Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try.

Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season.

Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know.
Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this.

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 939132)
Yes, but consider that Belichick won 36 games out of 80 over five years with the lowly Cleveland Browns plus a rare playoff victory in his first try.

Allen led the Oakland Raiders to back to back 4-12 seasons in his first two years only to be fired after starting 0-4 in his third season.

Allen's name comes up every year but he never gets the call. Once again, not every great coordinator translates to a good head coach. I believe that's how he is view by those in the know.
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 939136)
Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this.
and trust me I don't want him to leave

AsylumGuido 12-20-2021 06:52 PM
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Yeah, I get that, but I'm not sure it will hold true after this.
I think this is the perfect example of the Peter Principle.

"The Peter Principle observes that employees rise up through a firm's hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence."

Dennis Allen makes a great DC, but his strengths are not used at the next level.

That said, I can see a team offering him a ton of money trying to steal him from the Saints as a DC.

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 939130)
If Adam Gase :rolleyes: can get TWO cracks (failed miserably both times) at HC, why can't Allen?

He's relatively young too. In the right system, he could succeed as Head Coach.
And Josh McDaniel keeps getting mentioned, and he didn't light the world on fire either.

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 939139)
I think this is the perfect example of the Peter Principle.

"The Peter Principle observes that employees rise up through a firm's hierarchy through promotion until they reach a level of respective incompetence."

Dennis Allen makes a great DC, but his strengths are not used at the next level.
per your opinion

AsylumGuido 12-20-2021 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 939141)
per your opinion
Yes. My opinion ... and that of many others over the years. He was miserable with the Raiders as head coach. But great before and after as DC.

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 939143)
Yes. My opinion ... and that of many others over the years. He was miserable with the Raiders as head coach. But great before and after as DC.
Yup, got it, I heard you

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 07:04 PM
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Yup, got it, I heard you
I'm not sure everyone will think as you do.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2021 07:07 PM
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I'm not sure everyone will think as you do.
Of course they won't. There's always someone out there willing to take a chance. Foolish or not.

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 939147)
Of course they won't. There's always someone out there willing to take a chance. Foolish or not.
Yup, as much as I hate to lose him DA deserves another try as HC

AsylumGuido 12-20-2021 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 939149)
Yup, as much as I hate to lose him DA deserves another try as HC
If you feel so. We'll see. I expect this offseason will once again pass him over and I really think that's best for his career. He makes damned good money doing what he's doing and he's great at it. Uprooting his family to try to do something he failed at miserably a few years back gains him what?

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 939150)
If you feel so. We'll see. I expect this offseason will once again pass him over and I really think that's best for his career. He makes damned good money doing what he's doing and he's great at it. Uprooting his family to try to do something he failed at miserably a few years back gains him what?
Yeah, again, AGAIN, I got it. Do you always HAVE to have the last word?

AsylumGuido 12-20-2021 07:38 PM
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Yeah, again, AGAIN, I got it. Do you always HAVE to have the last word?
No. Do you?

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 07:39 PM
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Yup, cuz I don't do bullies

SaintGnome 12-20-2021 07:40 PM
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Yup, cuz I don't do bullies
and that's you. "

dskyyksd 12-20-2021 08:27 PM
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It really magnifies what a feat the Saints defense pulled off when you see the Bucs still lead the entire league in points scored with a shutout thrown in.

jeanpierre 12-20-2021 09:07 PM
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Rell&Gold 12-21-2021 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 939127)
Belechick failed at his first HC job as well, and that turned out OK. With a strong GM I think DA could do well, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone takes a chance after last night. I'm amazed he's been under the radar this long.
He hasnt been under the radar money wise if he leaves cool no problem, but if hes trying to win and longevity he should stay put. Coaching oppurtunites come with bad teams alot of the times I say 3 more seasons and the Saints wont be able to keep him UNLESS we are Winning RINGS...

AsylumGuido 12-21-2021 07:03 AM
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I’ll just put this here.

vpheughan 12-21-2021 08:09 AM
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I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT FOR YOU!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
AGAIN!!!!!Failed to consider your audience!!!! WHERE'S TREVOR????
:confused::confused::confused:

K Major 12-21-2021 10:57 AM
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Ahh, we’re on to Miami.

Boston Saint 12-21-2021 11:05 AM
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Ahh, we’re on to Miami.
Gonna be a tough one. They’ve won like 6 of last 7 I believe.

vpheughan 12-21-2021 11:31 AM
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Gonna be a tough one. They’ve won like 6 of last 7 I believe.
Streaks are made to be broken!

K Major 12-21-2021 12:53 PM
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Gonna be a tough one. They’ve won like 6 of last 7 I believe.
Yes sir.

Hopefully we get the bad Tua on Monday Night.

AsylumGuido 12-21-2021 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 939194)
Yes sir.

Hopefully we get the bad Tua on Monday Night.
As a matter of perspective, five of Miami's last six games have come against the Giants, Jets twice, Carolina, and the Texans. Their lone game against a team without a losing record was the Ravens in week 10 in Miami.

jeanpierre 12-21-2021 01:28 PM
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Rugby Saint II 12-21-2021 02:40 PM
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I had a player that I played with and refereed who was famous for sneaking up behind the ref and "accidentally knocked him to the ground when he wasn't looking" and then yelling sorry sir. He got called down loudly by me in front of both teams before kickoff. If he did that to me he was gone from the game, and I would report him and ensure he wouldn't play again for a long time. I stayed clean. Lol

Also, Brady is a spoiled little whiny rich girl.

K Major 12-21-2021 02:56 PM
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Well today is Tuesday…

Wonder what the injury report is on that tablet 🥺 ?

SmashMouth 12-21-2021 05:07 PM
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SmashMouth 12-22-2021 03:45 AM
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SmashMouth 12-22-2021 03:58 AM
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AsylumGuido 12-22-2021 08:51 AM
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Microsoft for the score ...


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