GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins

12-27-2021, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

20 or more people out with Covid protocol, I would expect no less from a fourth round rookie quarterback. Can’t give up on him just yet but it definitely showed he will not be ready anytime soon

Did it? Taysom threw FOUR INTS in one of the losses out of 5. None of the QBs had to deal with this level of oline. Book def left some plays on the field, but I dont feel like either Taysom or Trevor are any truly better options. Taysom may have converted some first downs but I dont know if he could have won with this OLine who MISSED on every blitz pick up or damn near

turbo_dog · 12-27-2021, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Did it? Taysom threw FOUR INTS in one of the losses out of 5. None of the QBs had to deal with this level of oline. Book def left some plays on the field, but I dont feel like either Taysom or Trevor are any truly better options. Taysom may have converted some first downs but I dont know if he could have won with this OLine who MISSED on every blitz pick up or damn near

My biggest criticism is not throwing the ball away and taking sacks. But also I read all along he is a running QB, and I saw no sign of that tonight.

jnormand · 12-28-2021, 12:04 AM

Dude, I like Book. He didn't get a fair shake tonight. I'd like to see what he has and give him the nod the rest of the season.

keithday123 · 12-28-2021, 12:08 AM

Look I’m not a big fan of Taysom as quarterback but right now he’s your best option because of the threat he brings as a runner. Is he a better passer than book right now, absolutely, but he’s not the answer long term but this years playoff run is not long term it’s two more games and hopefully more. As I said on an earlier post I’ve been watching these guys since the late 70’s and went a long time without a playoff appearance much less a playoff win so I still appreciate just getting there. Any saints football I can get I will take. Just get there baby!!!

Sinner · 12-28-2021, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Dude, I like Book. He didn't get a fair shake tonight. I'd like to see what he has and give him the nod the rest of the season.

Joe Montana would have looked like Joe Mantegna tonight.

K Major · 12-28-2021, 12:11 AM

I'll wait for Coach Payton to watch the tape and give his real assessment on former 1st rounder Cesar Ruiz. I didn't even like him at center.

No sugar coating here but this guy is a trash can offensive lineman. He has no business starting on this line.

WhoDat!656 · 12-28-2021, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by keithday123

This was a game where you couldn’t play behind the chains or turn the ball over. The pick 6 was huge even though it occurred early. No question Book cannot be judged on this game with that O-Line. The NFL put the Saints in a terrible situation with this game with there BS Covid rules. Regardless of who was playing tonight any team with 21 players missing should have had opportunity to move game like Cleveland the week before. Don’t be surprised to see games moved this weekend. I don’t necessarily believe the NFL is against the Saints I just believe the NFL has elected to let the government make the decisions for the with these CoVid rules. If your are asymptomatic get out there and play.

Substitute Dallas/Packers/Patriots for the Saints tonight and the league would have postponed this game so fast it would have made your head spin!

turbo_dog · 12-28-2021, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'll wait for Coach Payton to watch the tape and give his real assessment on former 1st rounder Cesar Ruiz. I didn't even like him at center.

No sugar coating here but this guy is a trash can offensive lineman. He has no business starting on this line.

I've actually thought Ruiz showed some real promise in the run game when the rest of the line was healthy. The last few games, especially in pass protection, he's REALLY struggled. I'm not ready to give up on him yet.

lee909 · 12-28-2021, 01:02 AM

I'd leave Book in for the next two.
Wasn't fair on him tonight, he was far from perfect and definitely should have thrown the ball away a few times. But his arm looks better than Hill, he also looked far less hesitant to move that Hill often does when in the pocket.

End of the day the playoffs look done, Hill isn't the answer going forward,obviously Trevor isn't either. See what Book has with a proper line. Love Kwon in the team but again I'd be starting Werner. It's all about next year now

vpheughan · 12-28-2021, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I'd leave Book in for the next two.
Wasn't fair on him tonight, he was far from perfect and definitely should have thrown the ball away a few times. But his arm looks better than Hill, he also looked far less hesitant to move that Hill often does when in the pocket.

End of the day the playoffs look done, Hill isn't the answer going forward,obviously Trevor isn't either. See what Book has with a proper line. Love Kwon in the team but again I'd be starting Werner. It's all about next year now

YEP! Look at the rest of the year as a jump on next year's preseason!

Then sit back and watch closely how the "ENTERTAINMENT" part of a "SPORTS / ENTERTAINMENT" shows it's self.
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12-27-2021, 11:54 PM	#261
Threaded by Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by voodooido 20 or more people out with Covid protocol, I would expect no less from a fourth round rookie quarterback. Can’t give up on him just yet but it definitely showed he will not be ready anytime soon Did it? Taysom threw FOUR INTS in one of the losses out of 5. None of the QBs had to deal with this level of oline. Book def left some plays on the field, but I dont feel like either Taysom or Trevor are any truly better options. Taysom may have converted some first downs but I dont know if he could have won with this OLine who MISSED on every blitz pick up or damn near jnormand likes this.
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12-27-2021, 11:59 PM	#262
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Did it? Taysom threw FOUR INTS in one of the losses out of 5. None of the QBs had to deal with this level of oline. Book def left some plays on the field, but I dont feel like either Taysom or Trevor are any truly better options. Taysom may have converted some first downs but I dont know if he could have won with this OLine who MISSED on every blitz pick up or damn near My biggest criticism is not throwing the ball away and taking sacks. But also I read all along he is a running QB, and I saw no sign of that tonight. Lord_Saint83 and Boston Saint like this.

12-28-2021, 12:04 AM	#263
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins Dude, I like Book. He didn't get a fair shake tonight. I'd like to see what he has and give him the nod the rest of the season. Sinner likes this.

12-28-2021, 12:08 AM	#264
keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 183	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins Look I’m not a big fan of Taysom as quarterback but right now he’s your best option because of the threat he brings as a runner. Is he a better passer than book right now, absolutely, but he’s not the answer long term but this years playoff run is not long term it’s two more games and hopefully more. As I said on an earlier post I’ve been watching these guys since the late 70’s and went a long time without a playoff appearance much less a playoff win so I still appreciate just getting there. Any saints football I can get I will take. Just get there baby!!!
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12-28-2021, 12:09 AM	#265
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,877	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins Originally Posted by jnormand Dude, I like Book. He didn't get a fair shake tonight. I'd like to see what he has and give him the nod the rest of the season. Joe Montana would have looked like Joe Mantegna tonight. saintfan, jnormand, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.
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12-28-2021, 12:11 AM	#266
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins I'll wait for Coach Payton to watch the tape and give his real assessment on former 1st rounder Cesar Ruiz. I didn't even like him at center. No sugar coating here but this guy is a trash can offensive lineman. He has no business starting on this line.

12-28-2021, 12:44 AM	#267
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins Originally Posted by keithday123 This was a game where you couldn’t play behind the chains or turn the ball over. The pick 6 was huge even though it occurred early. No question Book cannot be judged on this game with that O-Line. The NFL put the Saints in a terrible situation with this game with there BS Covid rules. Regardless of who was playing tonight any team with 21 players missing should have had opportunity to move game like Cleveland the week before. Don’t be surprised to see games moved this weekend. I don’t necessarily believe the NFL is against the Saints I just believe the NFL has elected to let the government make the decisions for the with these CoVid rules. If your are asymptomatic get out there and play. Substitute Dallas/Packers/Patriots for the Saints tonight and the league would have postponed this game so fast it would have made your head spin! saintfan and jnormand like this.

12-28-2021, 12:49 AM	#268
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins Originally Posted by K Major I'll wait for Coach Payton to watch the tape and give his real assessment on former 1st rounder Cesar Ruiz. I didn't even like him at center. No sugar coating here but this guy is a trash can offensive lineman. He has no business starting on this line. I've actually thought Ruiz showed some real promise in the run game when the rest of the line was healthy. The last few games, especially in pass protection, he's REALLY struggled. I'm not ready to give up on him yet.

12-28-2021, 01:02 AM	#269
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins I'd leave Book in for the next two. Wasn't fair on him tonight, he was far from perfect and definitely should have thrown the ball away a few times. But his arm looks better than Hill, he also looked far less hesitant to move that Hill often does when in the pocket. End of the day the playoffs look done, Hill isn't the answer going forward,obviously Trevor isn't either. See what Book has with a proper line. Love Kwon in the team but again I'd be starting Werner. It's all about next year now jnormand and dizzle88 like this.
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12-28-2021, 09:00 AM	#270
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,521	Re: GAMEDAY THREAD - SAINTS VS. Dolphins Originally Posted by lee909 I'd leave Book in for the next two. Wasn't fair on him tonight, he was far from perfect and definitely should have thrown the ball away a few times. But his arm looks better than Hill, he also looked far less hesitant to move that Hill often does when in the pocket. End of the day the playoffs look done, Hill isn't the answer going forward,obviously Trevor isn't either. See what Book has with a proper line. Love Kwon in the team but again I'd be starting Werner. It's all about next year now YEP! Look at the rest of the year as a jump on next year's preseason! Then sit back and watch closely how the "ENTERTAINMENT" part of a "SPORTS / ENTERTAINMENT" shows it's self. Controversial no-call seals Cleveland Browns' loss to Green Bay Packers "Been there, had that done, have the emotional scars to prove it!" 2019 NFCCCG saintfan and jnormand like this.
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