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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; [quote="mjf150"] Originally Posted by stockman311 I don't want to hear one person jumping on Brooks for this one. Haslett.....I can't remember of one challenge he has ever won. quote] First, where do you get off telling other people to not ...
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09-20-2005, 12:35 PM | #21 |
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Re: No Brooks Bashing
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Originally Posted by stockman311
Where do I get off? Hmm... Let me think.... Probably the First Ammendment for starters. Next, would be the fact that this is a message board where people congregate to voice opinions about the Saints and it's players. If you don't like the point I was trying to make that the entire team was at fault for the crapfest we witnessed then I really don't care.
Bash Brooks all you want. He sucked last night. He's the worst quarterback in history. You happy now. Also, Who dat, I was having an A/B debate with papz blue ribbon. If you want to wax poetic about the nuances of the English language I can direct you to a great site where your cornhole will be most unprotected (the way you like it I am sure). Now go get your shinebox. |
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09-20-2005, 12:45 PM | #22 |
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09-20-2005, 03:42 PM | #23 |
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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
He threw the ball over the middle. It was an ill advised pass in the situation he was in. You don't throw over the middle in a cluster of people and hope something good happens. Even if the wide receivers messed up their routes, you throw the ball out of bounds.
So, you just admitted the pass to Conwell was in double coverage. He threw the ball to a tight-end with barely any verticle covered by two Giant defenders infront of him. Granted he got it through the defense, it was thrown too hard for brick hands Conwell to catch it. The fumble was Brooks' fault. If you watched the play, you clearly see Brooks pull out before the ball got to his hands. He was nervous and he jumped too soon. It was a lack of composure that led him to make the mistake. The missed field goal from Carney is arguable. I do believe the game was over before he missed it, though. Thats just my opinion. |
09-20-2005, 04:07 PM | #24 |
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No doubt the Saints can come back and should have a good season. But we should have one that game. Joe horn was miked up for the game and we heard him say that we gave the Giants the game. Joe said we handed it to them on a platter and they ate it up.
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09-20-2005, 04:12 PM | #25 |
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09-20-2005, 09:12 PM | #26 |
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The fact is the Saints loss and Aaron Brooks is a huge part of the reason for their defeat. I don't care what kind of excuses you make for this guy. This was a team effort, but Brooks blew this game way more than any other player did. Out of all the bad plays, his name appears the most.
If you're satisfied with this guy as our quarterback, then you must be living an extremely pleasurable life. You're apparently happy with mediocre, and at times sub-par performances. I can see exactly why you're a fan of this team. I, on the other hand, want a change. I want a positive one. My desire is for the Saints to win the SuperBowl. Brooks hurts this team and is making their run at the big show an extremely difficult one. What do I suggest? I suggest we get a quarterback who doesn't lose the game for us. He doesn't have to win the game. He doesn't have to be incredibly talented, throw hard, or run fast. I just want a quarterback thats going to protect the ball and will NOT be the reason why our team fails. I don't care about big numbers or pro-bowl calliber stats. I want a smart quarterback who may not make genius plays, but doesn't make idiotic ones. I want a quarterback who has a strong grip on the football. I want a quarterback who can read defences and run through his progression. I want a quarterback who isn't known as a consistent drive killer. How can anyone defend Aaron Brooks at this point? There was a play last night where he threw the ball to a receiver who happened to be covered by 4 defensive players. 4. Granted, I'm not the football genius, but if 4 defenders are on one receiver, shouldn't there be another receiver or two streaking wide open down field? What the hell? No other team in the NFL would have kept Aaron Brooks as their starting quarterback as long as we have. I'm sorry. I don't care what any of you say anymore. Yes, he had a good game last week. He also had an atrocious game last night. Whatever, though. Why is it that an incredibly low percentage of fantasy football players around the country never draft Brooks? Nearly everyone who drafts Brooks for his fantasy team is a Saints' fan. I admit, though, in fantasy football Brooks does decent. That can largely be attributed to the fact that there are no "drive/morale killer" statistics to go by. |
09-21-2005, 09:29 AM | #27 |
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Re: RE: No Brooks Bashing
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And that ends that. Well played Oldies, well played.
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09-21-2005, 10:16 AM | #28 |
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Originally Posted by BlackonBlack
The fact that Sean Salisbury is your back-up, kills your whole argument. And you have used it like 14 times already, find a new one. It sucked the fist time you used it, and hasn't gotten better.
During the game in the FIRST QUARTER, the announcers kept saying how good Brooks looked. They also said to a man, "I have NEVER seen him play this well." Never. He has been out starter what, 5 years? That was in the first quarter. Stop trying to make it seem like they pumped him up the whole game, cause when the mistakes started, they stopped singing that tune. As a matter of fact, they went to pointing out how many guys were in coverage around the passes Brooks was throwing. The second guy, Paul I think it is, counted as many as 4 defenders around several of Brooks' incompletions. But so what? Is it ruining your life everyone doesn't think Brooks is as great as you? We are two games in to the 5th year of his mediocrity, it ain't changing. He will have damn good games, and he will help cost us some. That's Brooks. You may be satisfied with that, but others aren't. Calling people pond scum and insulting their intelligence only makes your argument that much poorer. Go troll somewhere else. |
09-21-2005, 10:43 AM | #29 |
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Second, your attempt at deflection is lame. NOONE said Brooks is THE reason we lost, EVERYONE who is not blinded by him has said he is one of the reasons. You refuse to even say that. How sad for you. He made the same mistakes he has made forever, and some are tired of it. Big woop. Why are you knocking yourself out trying to prove this mediocre guy is some superhero? You are like the guy who ALWAYS has to take the most random character on any popular movie or show and make it seem like they carry the cast. Like if someone said, man Vader and Skywalker were awesome in the early Star Wars, you would be like "Yeah, but it would have been nothing without Chewbacca," or something to that effect. Or Seinfeld was one of the greatest comedies of our time, and you would say, "well without Jackie Childs, they would never have made it that far." We get it already. You love Brooks and he gets NO BLAME for anything having to do with a loss for the team, but all credit for anything having to do with a win. Trust me, we get the picture. There is no need to make stuff up, call people names, be rude, and question people's intelligence cause Brooks doesn't butter our buscuits. |