Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers

MatthewT · 01-03-2022, 10:13 AM

The Saints have a defense that is good enough to win the Super Bowl, but their offense looks like a 1970s expansion team. Pretty much sums up the entire season and what I seen yesterday.

turbo_dog · 01-03-2022, 11:04 AM

Yesterday's game reinforced everything we already knew.

- Our QB situation has been bad since Winston went down. The only way to be successful there is mix in designed runs to keep a defense thinking.
- The O line is struggling when most of them are backups
- Kamara is a superstar
- This defense is stellar. Kwon and Demario are great together. Cam can still turn it on, and Davenport is a force when healthy. All the other guys on the D line do their job and bring it when necessary.

K Major · 01-03-2022, 11:18 AM

I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield.

Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling.

Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively.

Rugby Saint II · 01-03-2022, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield.

Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling.

Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively.

Yes, please!

saintfan · 01-03-2022, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield.

Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling.

Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively.

Callaway and Harris. Send the rest on to exciting new challenges.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2022, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ignoring the list of key players lost earlier in the season we were down RT1, LT1, C1, RB2 and some of y'all are acting like that's "our offense".

If those players come back, we're essentially at full strength on the O line for the first time in WEEKS.

While I don't expect a 180, I would imagine Taysom gets more time to survey the field and maybe use his legs.

^^^^
This!

People talking about how the offense needs retooled. What the offense needs are the players already on the roster to be in the active lineup and it's back to being a very competitive squad. Can the offensive roster be improved? Of course. But it is much, much better than what is being marched out on the field through much of this season.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2022, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

The Saints have a defense that is good enough to win the Super Bowl, but their offense looks like a 1970s expansion team. Pretty much sums up the entire season and what I seen yesterday.

What you saw yesterday isn't our offense. It is what we have out there while major pieces were missing. Big difference.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2022, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield.

Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling.

Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively.

Exactly. We are very close to having an elite offense when all the existing pieces are in place. With the few additions you mentioned we can be right back there. And that includes Winston.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2022, 12:28 PM

Panties fans did not make the trip. The lowest visiting crowd by far all season.

The same can be said for the home crowd. It was by far the greatest number of empty seats I've seen in the dome this season.

That said, it was the loudest crowd of the season whenever it mattered. The ones that were missing were apparently those that sit on their hands anyway. Not as loud as past years, but honestly the loudest this year.

The defense is for real. On any given day we can beat anyone with this defense and a bit of luck.

Callaway can be a weapon, but those two blatant drops were out of character for him this season.

Taysom gives us a better chance of winning games than any Saints QB not named Jameis and it isn't even close. It looks like his teammates agree.

Ceedy Duce has become a huge crowd favorite. The reaction to his introduction was only equaled by Demario and Cam.

The 550 mile round trip is much more enjoyable with a win. Go figure.

vpheughan · 01-03-2022, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Callaway and Harris. Send the rest on to exciting new challenges.

For those who put so much value on "Draft Choices"
Callaway and Harris: Both Free Agent Signings.

01-03-2022, 10:13 AM	#21
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers The Saints have a defense that is good enough to win the Super Bowl, but their offense looks like a 1970s expansion team. Pretty much sums up the entire season and what I seen yesterday. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-03-2022, 11:04 AM	#22
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Yesterday's game reinforced everything we already knew. - Our QB situation has been bad since Winston went down. The only way to be successful there is mix in designed runs to keep a defense thinking. - The O line is struggling when most of them are backups - Kamara is a superstar - This defense is stellar. Kwon and Demario are great together. Cam can still turn it on, and Davenport is a force when healthy. All the other guys on the D line do their job and bring it when necessary.

01-03-2022, 11:18 AM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield. Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling. Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively. saintfan, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

01-03-2022, 11:24 AM	#24
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by K Major I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield. Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling. Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively. Yes, please!

01-03-2022, 11:34 AM	#25
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by K Major I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield. Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling. Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively. Callaway and Harris. Send the rest on to exciting new challenges. MatthewT and K Major like this.

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01-03-2022, 12:11 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ignoring the list of key players lost earlier in the season we were down RT1, LT1, C1, RB2 and some of y'all are acting like that's "our offense". If those players come back, we're essentially at full strength on the O line for the first time in WEEKS. While I don't expect a 180, I would imagine Taysom gets more time to survey the field and maybe use his legs. ^^^^ This! People talking about how the offense needs retooled. What the offense needs are the players already on the roster to be in the active lineup and it's back to being a very competitive squad. Can the offensive roster be improved? Of course. But it is much, much better than what is being marched out on the field through much of this season.

01-03-2022, 12:12 PM	#27
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by MatthewT The Saints have a defense that is good enough to win the Super Bowl, but their offense looks like a 1970s expansion team. Pretty much sums up the entire season and what I seen yesterday. What you saw yesterday isn't our offense. It is what we have out there while major pieces were missing. Big difference. Thirty3 likes this.

01-03-2022, 12:14 PM	#28
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by K Major I know we are missing damn near the entire starting O line, however, I like the way Marquez Callaway continues to make plays downfield. Still believe he's a solid #3, but he has a high ceiling. Hope that we get a healthy MT, add a stud FA WR & then draft one in the subsequent draft & we're back in business offensively. Exactly. We are very close to having an elite offense when all the existing pieces are in place. With the few additions you mentioned we can be right back there. And that includes Winston.

01-03-2022, 12:28 PM	#29
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Panties fans did not make the trip. The lowest visiting crowd by far all season. The same can be said for the home crowd. It was by far the greatest number of empty seats I've seen in the dome this season. That said, it was the loudest crowd of the season whenever it mattered. The ones that were missing were apparently those that sit on their hands anyway. Not as loud as past years, but honestly the loudest this year. The defense is for real. On any given day we can beat anyone with this defense and a bit of luck. Callaway can be a weapon, but those two blatant drops were out of character for him this season. Taysom gives us a better chance of winning games than any Saints QB not named Jameis and it isn't even close. It looks like his teammates agree. Ceedy Duce has become a huge crowd favorite. The reaction to his introduction was only equaled by Demario and Cam. The 550 mile round trip is much more enjoyable with a win. Go figure.
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01-03-2022, 12:34 PM	#30
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,519	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by saintfan Callaway and Harris. Send the rest on to exciting new challenges. For those who put so much value on "Draft Choices" Callaway and Harris: Both Free Agent Signings.
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