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TheGambler 09-20-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian
I too believe we can win with Brooks...next years #1 pick in the draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Only on a Saints message board would we see someone joke around about getting the first pick in the draft, while their team has a 1-1 record and their QB just threw for 345 yards.

CHACHING 09-20-2005 02:05 PM

You funny Biloxi....hahahaha...
So would you guys be happy with Matt Leinart?

saintswhodi 09-20-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGambler
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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian
I too believe we can win with Brooks...next years #1 pick in the draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Only on a Saints message board would we see someone joke around about getting the first pick in the draft, while their team has a 1-1 record and their QB just threw for 345 yards.

And 1 TD to 4 turnovers, making the total 1 TD and 5 turnover son the year. You should see those Vikes fans getting on Tice and culpepper, it's brutal. So sounds about right.

TheGambler 09-20-2005 02:06 PM

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Forcing us to go to AB...

If it weren't for Horn, STallworth, and yes, AB, then the game would have been over by Halftime.

So to you it is coincidence last week AB had half the pass attempts and we won? Interesting.


Is it coincidence that we didn't fumble the opening kickoff last week, and get called for holding and false starts on seemingly every other play, and thus we managed to win?

iceshack149 09-20-2005 02:09 PM

The whole team stunk, guys. I wanted to believe that at least Horn and Stallworth did great but they both turned the ball over. (You can blame Stallworth for that interception.)
To put so much blame on Brooks is plain silly. The team looked bad.

Some talking heads last night gave the Saints a pass because of their situation at home and to a degree you have to agree. But this team looks just the same as last year and the year before and the year before. INCONSISTENT. Penalties, fumbles, a reverse on the kickoff return that set the tone for the rest of the game. Great one week, crap the next.

Damn that Aaron Brooks.

TheDeuce 09-20-2005 02:11 PM

AB made two mistakes last night: an interception and not falling on the ball after the fumbled snap. Two mistakes is manageable, especially considering the talent on the rest of the team. The fact is, Aaron played brilliantly besides those two mistakes. 375 yards? Should have had 2 touchdowns if Joe hadn't fumbled it in the endzone. YOu also have to consider that two of his interceptions weren't really his fault (a WR miscommunication, and a hail mary that didn't even matter). Also, when taking into consideration how "dreadful" Brooks was on Monday, I think you should first look at our offensive line. They couldn't move the Giants front four, and thus resulted in the total collapse of our running game. A result of this was a reverting back to the offense of last year: "O crap, we can't move the ball on the ground, we better throw the ball 60 times." As a result, they were looking for the pass every single play. Still, despite all of this, Aaron Brooks threaded countless passes between waiting defenders, tried his very best to avoid a dangerous pass rush, and made very few mental mistakes. This game was not his fault. Yes, he did throw an interception, and he fumbled one snap, but the point is, Aaron Brooks has been playing smarter this year, and he's been making some pretty amazing throws. He just needs the rest of the team to step it up and stop getting 8+ penalties every game.

saintswhodi 09-20-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
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Originally Posted by TheGambler
Forcing us to go to AB...

If it weren't for Horn, STallworth, and yes, AB, then the game would have been over by Halftime.

So to you it is coincidence last week AB had half the pass attempts and we won? Interesting.


Is it coincidence that we didn't fumble the opening kickoff last week, and get called for holding and false starts on seemingly every other play, and thus we managed to win?

So what you are getting it is AB played no role in the loss? Is that what I am hearing? You really are gone man.

iceshack149 09-20-2005 02:14 PM

[/quote]So to you it is coincidence last week AB had half the pass attempts and we won? Interesting.[/quote]

Brooks had half the attempts last week because the Saints were in it from the beginning. On their first drive they were able to get a td and they ate up almost 10 minutes doing it.

TheGambler 09-20-2005 02:16 PM

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So what you are getting it is AB played no role in the loss? Is that what I am hearing? You really are gone man.

I never said he played NO ROLE in the loss. I want you to show me anywhere I said that. If you'd quit assuming so much, then you wouldn't have to look like such a blithering HEADCASE most of the time.

I simply said he isn't playing nearly as large a role as most people here are trying to imply. I'm not the only one saying this, either. Look around. Even a few usual Brooks bashers are conceding this fact.

saintswhodi 09-20-2005 02:19 PM

So to you it is coincidence last week AB had half the pass attempts and we won? Interesting.[/quote]

Brooks had half the attempts last week because the Saints were in it from the beginning. On their first drive they were able to get a td and they ate up almost 10 minutes doing it.[/quote]

And in this game we didn't. So? If so much is gonna be made of that opening drive fumble, then the same amount of noise needs to be made on Brooks' THREE turnovers, not the last one which would be 4 but meant nothing. Fact is, the Giants said you are not gonna run on us, Brooks needs to beat us, and he responded with three crucial turnovers and some bogus yards. Sorry, not sold. And do they rinse that stats argument for Brooks every year and repeat? Hey Brooks doesn't suck, look at his stats. But he led the league in lost fumbles. Look at his stats I said. But he led the league in red zone turnovers. STATS!!!! That argument is about 3 years too old.


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