Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 942004) Just curious, why would Houston trade Watson for Thomas when they could just trade Watson for picks themselves?

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 942008) I could somehow see D Watson land in NY (Giants).

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942012) New York Giants 2022 Salary Cap The Giants certainly have the ability to open up enough cap to take on his contract ($35M - 2022) using base salary and roster bonus conversions, but he carries a $51 million cap hit in dead money to the Texans. It's less damaging to the Texans to leave him on the roster. Not to mention what Chris pointed out about his having the no trade clause. He'll have to okay any deal if offered up.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 942014) If the Giants are seriously interested in Brian Flores (Brooklyn guy) as their next HC ... Better believe Watson would be interested in playing there.

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 942018) The top priority this off season needs to be figure out who will be QB1. I’m a fan of Winston and would like to see what he could do with better WRs but I think it’s too big a risk for this to be our plan A. The recovery timeline has him coming back after the season starts. That would mean no training camp or reps and we don’t know how he’ll be post injury. I like bringing him back as a backup but I would like them to do whatever it takes to get Wilson and make a run with him and this defense. If we can’t bring in a top QB then I think it might be time to start letting guys go and try to get under the cap and rebuild. It’s all comes down to the most important position on the field. As much as I like this defense I don’t like the idea of restructuring contracts and bringing everyone back while rolling the dice on a QB coming off a major injury who most likely won’t even be ready to start the season.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942013) Just dropping this here. https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1482716978250981377

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 942026) I'm not 100% sold on Winston. Unless the Saints have a realistic chance of signing Wilson, I would go with Hill and Siemian, work on the O-line, get some WR's and another RB if Ingram walks.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 942027) But our head coach himself did choose Winston over those guys.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942029) I think I'd give the edge of who's naming the next QB slightly to Sean Payton over WhoDat!656. ;) :D

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 942026) I'm not 100% sold on Winston. Unless the Saints have a realistic chance of signing Wilson, I would go with Hill and Siemian, work on the O-line, get some WR's and another RB if Ingram walks.

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 942030) Fewer and fewer people actually give a **** what you think... Tick tick tick...https://www.jimphicdesigns.com/downl.../hourglass.gif

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 942077) Just give a rest for Christ's sake.! No one wants to read you *****ing. It got old fast bud!

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 942078) Hey bud. Control Panel>Edit Ignore List Type 'saintfan'. You think we should just block guido. You just block me. Problem solved. You're welcome. Bud. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942029) I think I'd give the edge of who's naming the next QB slightly to Sean Payton over WhoDat!656. ;) :D

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 942142) This is a really crappy comment. WhoDat!656 can't have an opinion without ridicule? You know it's subjective on who's the best QB for us, right? Can't you just offer your OPINION (yes, it's only your opinion, it's not fact) instead of calling him(or her?) out? And yes, at the beginning of last season SP chose Winston, I haven't seen anything to say that he will again.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 942142) This is a really crappy comment. WhoDat!656 can't have an opinion without ridicule? You know it's subjective on who's the best QB for us, right? Can't you just offer your OPINION (yes, it's only your opinion, it's not fact) instead of calling him(or her?) out? And yes, at the beginning of last season SP chose Winston, I haven't seen anything to say that he will again.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942143) Chill, it was a light-hearted jab while agreeing with Major's point. Note the smilie and wink. :chug:

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From the above linked free article:

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There's a premium of talent that is set to hit the open market when the new season rolls around. How New Orleans attacks this could depend largely on how they address the quarterback position. If they were to trade for someone like Russell Wilson and absorb a high cap hit, then they'd need to ensure they push some money to make way for acquiring at least one receiver.

It's not a given, but bringing back someone like Jameis Winston could allow them to be a bigger spender in free agency. Premiere options to upgrade the group include the likes of Davante Adams, Odell Beckham Jr., Chris Godwin, Mike Williams, and Allen Robinson.

The other tier options would be Christian Kirk, Jamison Crowder, Will Fuller, Russell Gage, Michael Gallup, Zay Jones, Byron Pringle, Kalif Raymond, and Cedrick Wilson Jr.. Veterans like Emmanuel Sanders and A.J. Green would likely be a yearly rental.

The draft also has some plentiful options, as New Orleans could be in a prime position if they hold firm with their 18th pick. Jameson Williams (Alabama), who is going to be coming back from an ACL tear, was a rising prospect. His draft stock is going to be something to watch. Garrett Wilson (Ohio State), Chris Olave (Ohio State), Jahan Dotson (Penn State), and Treylon Burks (Arkansas) are some of the top names to watch leading up to the draft, and we'll look at those in depth as we get closer.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 942146) Maybe that's how you meant it but that's not the way it came across. I see this argument from you often. Of course unless someone on here is a hall of fame HC in disguise SP and/or Loomis is a better evaluator of the situation than ANYONE on this board but the purpose of this board is for us fans to talk about issues and debate. So when someone disagrees with your opinion you default to "coach knows best" does it really add anything worthwhile to the conversation?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942038) Saints Rumors: NOLA ‘would make sense’ as landing spot for Derek Carr by Leigh Oleszczak Saints rumors are going to revolve heavily around the quarterback position this offseason and the latest name to be linked to New Orleans is current Raiders quarterback, Derek Carr. According to Ian Rapoport, Carr’s future with the Raiders depends on whoever is hired as the next head coach. Jon Gruden resigned midway through the 2021 season due to leaked emails yet the Raiders persevered and find themselves in the playoffs with an interim head coach. Carr has played well this season despite all of the drama going in Las Vegas, throwing for 4,804 yards, 23 touchdowns, and 14 interceptions. He has his ups and downs, but what quarterback doesn’t? He’d easily be an upgrade over any of the quarterbacks on the Saints’ roster. Rapoport finished his article by mentioning the Saints as a potential destination for Carr: "Among the teams who would make sense for Carr are the Saints, Texans and perhaps the Colts, should they decide to move on from Carson Wentz. If Carr is, in fact, available, he will likely garner more interest than that." Read the rest here ...

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942148) That's just my opinion and it appears to have been Major_K's, as well. :D :cool: But, it's actually a really good point that Major made. Did you see anything that would change Payton's mind about his selection of Winston as the starter over anyone that is currently on the roster?

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942150) And y’all leave Guido alone man. He’s really a nice guy. Very caring. Very understanding. It’s difficult to read intent through the internet. Sarcasm can be mistaken for other things. Let’s just talk football. We got a while to go before anything worthwhile happens for our Saints.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942150) And y’all leave Guido alone man. He’s really a nice guy. Very caring. Very understanding. It’s difficult to read intent through the internet. Sarcasm can be mistaken for other things. Let’s just talk football. We got a while to go before anything worthwhile happens for our Saints.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 942155) He comes across like a bully, I don't like bullies.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 942151) So when someone disagrees with your opinion you default to "coach knows best" does it really add anything worthwhile to the conversation?

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 942152) He's a dick.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 942155) He comes across like a bully, I don't like bullies.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942157) Wasn't that exactly what Major_K just did? Think about that.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942158) Both of y’all block him and let’s get back to business. I say we roll with Jameis Winston. If we can get Russell Wilson I’ll take that too, but I’d feel really bad shipping Winston out after such a successful start and a ****ty injury. I’m concerned for the effect it would have on the locker room. It just wreaks of race horse treatment to cut ties now.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 942158) Both of y’all block him and let’s get back to business. I say we roll with Jameis Winston. If we can get Russell Wilson I’ll take that too, but I’d feel really bad shipping Winston out after such a successful start and a ****ty injury. I’m concerned for the effect it would have on the locker room. It just wreaks of race horse treatment to cut ties now.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942160) Looking at the most recent work from Wilson I don't see him as a marked upgrade to Winston at this point, especially for the money. Wilson had the second worst TD total of his career this season and his TD/Int ratio (26/6) was worse than Winston's (14/3).