2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions

AsylumGuido · 01-18-2022, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

This is true. The money is a factor.

From what I've read and heard, based upon his coming off the injury, Winston's price tag would fall around $10 million for a one year prove it deal. Wilson would be four times that annually ... at least.

SaintGnome · 01-18-2022, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Both of y’all block him and let’s get back to business.

I say we roll with Jameis Winston. If we can get Russell Wilson I’ll take that too, but I’d feel really bad shipping Winston out after such a successful start and a ****ty injury. I’m concerned for the effect it would have on the locker room. It just wreaks of race horse treatment to cut ties now.

I've said everything I have to say on that topic.

As far as Winston he's earned another chance to start IMO but he's not under contract with us for next year yet is he? Somebody could out bid us, right?

AsylumGuido · 01-18-2022, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I've said everything I have to say on that topic.

As far as Winston he's earned another chance to start IMO but he's not under contract with us for next year yet is he? Somebody could out bid us, right?

No. He's a free agent. Could someone outbid us? Sure. They could have last year as well, but he chose to re-sign with the Saints on that one year incentive laden deal. From all indications he'd be willing to do it again at $10 million, almost twice what he inked for last season at the contract base.

rezburna · 01-18-2022, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I've said everything I have to say on that topic.

As far as Winston he's earned another chance to start IMO but he's not under contract with us for next year yet is he? Somebody could out bid us, right?

Somebody could definitely throw the bag at him if they want him bad enough. Pittsburgh would be a great place for him. I’d do 2 years, $20 million guaranteed with the possibility of earning upwards of $50 million via incentives. That leaves him with the chance to make $25 a year which is about right for a starting QB.

AsylumGuido · 01-18-2022, 01:01 PM

SaintGnome · 01-18-2022, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Somebody could definitely throw the bag at him if they want him bad enough. Pittsburgh would be a great place for him. I’d do 2 years, $20 million guaranteed with the possibility of earning upwards of $50 million via incentives. That leaves him with the chance to make $25 a year which is about right for a starting QB.

I was thinking if I was the new coach for the Jags (especially if I'm Leftwich) I wouldn't go in without a plan B in case that QB really does suck. They would definitely be able to out bid us.

rezburna · 01-18-2022, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I was thinking if I was the new coach for the Jags (especially if I'm Leftwich) I wouldn't go in without a plan B in case that QB really does suck. They would definitely be able to out bid us.

I keep hearing Bill O’Brien being mentioned and I have no idea why.

AsylumGuido · 01-18-2022, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I keep hearing Bill O’Brien being mentioned and I have no idea why.

That's coming straight from GM Trent Baalke according to something I read a couple of weeks ago.

Here we go. I found it:

Jaguars head coach search: Retaining GM Trent Baalke will hinder team's ability to attract top candidates

"Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process."

saintsfan1976 · 01-18-2022, 03:07 PM

Sign Winston and I have to assume there would be more money to address critical positions.

Sign Wilson and I doubt that's the case.

AsylumGuido · 01-18-2022, 04:23 PM

For those concerned about cap space here's Nick Underhill with a quick video explaining the simple concepts.

01-18-2022, 12:21 PM	#81
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Originally Posted by rezburna This is true. The money is a factor. From what I've read and heard, based upon his coming off the injury, Winston's price tag would fall around $10 million for a one year prove it deal. Wilson would be four times that annually ... at least.

01-18-2022, 12:23 PM	#82
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Originally Posted by rezburna Both of y’all block him and let’s get back to business. I say we roll with Jameis Winston. If we can get Russell Wilson I’ll take that too, but I’d feel really bad shipping Winston out after such a successful start and a ****ty injury. I’m concerned for the effect it would have on the locker room. It just wreaks of race horse treatment to cut ties now. I've said everything I have to say on that topic. As far as Winston he's earned another chance to start IMO but he's not under contract with us for next year yet is he? Somebody could out bid us, right?

01-18-2022, 12:29 PM	#83
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Originally Posted by SaintGnome I've said everything I have to say on that topic. As far as Winston he's earned another chance to start IMO but he's not under contract with us for next year yet is he? Somebody could out bid us, right? No. He's a free agent. Could someone outbid us? Sure. They could have last year as well, but he chose to re-sign with the Saints on that one year incentive laden deal. From all indications he'd be willing to do it again at $10 million, almost twice what he inked for last season at the contract base.

01-18-2022, 12:56 PM	#84
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Originally Posted by SaintGnome I've said everything I have to say on that topic. As far as Winston he's earned another chance to start IMO but he's not under contract with us for next year yet is he? Somebody could out bid us, right? Somebody could definitely throw the bag at him if they want him bad enough. Pittsburgh would be a great place for him. I’d do 2 years, $20 million guaranteed with the possibility of earning upwards of $50 million via incentives. That leaves him with the chance to make $25 a year which is about right for a starting QB.

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01-18-2022, 02:22 PM	#86
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Originally Posted by rezburna Somebody could definitely throw the bag at him if they want him bad enough. Pittsburgh would be a great place for him. I’d do 2 years, $20 million guaranteed with the possibility of earning upwards of $50 million via incentives. That leaves him with the chance to make $25 a year which is about right for a starting QB. I was thinking if I was the new coach for the Jags (especially if I'm Leftwich) I wouldn't go in without a plan B in case that QB really does suck. They would definitely be able to out bid us.

01-18-2022, 02:27 PM	#87
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Originally Posted by SaintGnome I was thinking if I was the new coach for the Jags (especially if I'm Leftwich) I wouldn't go in without a plan B in case that QB really does suck. They would definitely be able to out bid us. I keep hearing Bill O’Brien being mentioned and I have no idea why.

01-18-2022, 02:33 PM	#88
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Originally Posted by rezburna I keep hearing Bill O’Brien being mentioned and I have no idea why. That's coming straight from GM Trent Baalke according to something I read a couple of weeks ago. Here we go. I found it: Jaguars head coach search: Retaining GM Trent Baalke will hinder team's ability to attract top candidates "Baalke has also recently been pushing Alabama offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien to ownership as a possible candidate. O'Brien earned accolades as a play-caller under Nick Saban and has previous experience as head coach in Houston. However, the bitter end to his time there, and his history of power struggles and personality clashes, won't likely do much to stem the tide of public sentiment in Jacksonville against the early stages of this hiring process."
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01-18-2022, 03:07 PM	#89
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions Sign Winston and I have to assume there would be more money to address critical positions. Sign Wilson and I doubt that's the case. AsylumGuido likes this.

01-18-2022, 04:23 PM	#90
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints Off-Season Decisions For those concerned about cap space here's Nick Underhill with a quick video explaining the simple concepts. Twitter