Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot

saintfan · 01-14-2022, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yet, with our defense and many players finally returning to health we could have beaten any of the teams that made the playoffs on any given day. Would we have made it to the Super Bowl? Extremely unlikely, but a win against the Rams was very possible.

How can someone who blindly proclaimed 17-0 baby!, regardless of circumstance, not also predict us to win the Superbowl, regardless of circumstance?

Unless, of course, that person is a magnanimous idiot. Hmmmm...

bobdog86 · 01-14-2022, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yet, with our defense and many players finally returning to health we could have beaten any of the teams that made the playoffs on any given day. Would we have made it to the Super Bowl? Extremely unlikely, but a win against the Rams was very possible.

Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda....we'll never know.

AsylumGuido · 01-14-2022, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda....we'll never know.

Yup. Far too many obstacles (displacement from Ida, injuries to key players, COVID, suspensions, etc.) to overcome. However, it "woulda" been real sweet to end the Rams' season this weekend.

Boston Saint · 01-14-2022, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

I think he's referring to notable losses to non-playoff teams: Panthers, Giants, Dolphins, and Falcons. You really can't hang your hat on beating TB and then losing badly to the Dolphins, regardless of the circumstances. IMHO, true playoff contenders never rely on 'help' to punch their ticket to post season.

The Saints controlled their own destiny in the Miami game and blew it.

So, I believe the wins against Tampa and Green Bay were more indicative than the Miami loss where the team was forced to play with 4th stringers at QB and across the offensive line. The “next man up” and “no excuses” mentality is all good and fine, but hardly realistic. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that none of the teams that did make the playoffs lost their first and second string QBs for extended periods of time like the Saints did? Do you think it’s mere
happenstance that the Saints set a record for the most different starters in the history of the league and just missed the playoffs? I think there is a direct relation.

Obviously the Atl, Giant, and Miami losses were tough and on the team. But likes wise the 4 wins against playoff teams were impressive and on the team too. To someone that says there was “nothing” playoff caliber about the team’s body of work I respectively disagree. One or two wins against winning/playoff teams could be a fluke. 4 is not.

Hanging the “blew it” label that you are on the Miami game without taking into account the roster situation is silly in my opinion. But hey, that’s just me. Doesn’t mean I’m right.

saintfan · 01-14-2022, 12:20 PM

Covid gave Roger another tool and he used it.

People are NOW being told to come into work (respiratory therapists in this case) even if they have covid but are otherwise symptom-free. Roger changed the Covid rules DURING THE SEASON such that some teams didn't get hit as hard as others. He did this late in the season. Timing is, of course, everything...

None of this Covid crap was necessary. Politics has infiltrated the sport and this is the result. We should all get used to it. It isn't changing. Ever.

saintsfan1976 · 01-14-2022, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

There was nothing playoff caliber about the 2021 New Orleans Saints body of work.

Defense.

AsylumGuido · 01-16-2022, 08:21 AM

K Major · 01-16-2022, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

The Saints controlled their own destiny in the Miami game and blew it.

16 players OUT of that MNF due to Covid …

No excuse but that simply wasn’t a fair fight.

Boston Saint · 01-16-2022, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

16 players OUT of that MNF due to Covid …

No excuse but that simply wasn’t a fair fight.

The league also changed COVID protocols about a week or so later. Those changes allowed Niners players to participate in their final game against the Rams that would not have been eligible had the protocols stayed the same. Different rules for different teams.

saintfan · 01-16-2022, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The league also changed COVID protocols about a week or so later. Those changes allowed Niners players to participate in their final game against the Rams that would not have been eligible had the protocols stayed the same. Different rules for different teams.

My point too. Yet another example of the NFL putting some thing ahead of fair play.

01-14-2022, 10:52 AM	#11
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yet, with our defense and many players finally returning to health we could have beaten any of the teams that made the playoffs on any given day. Would we have made it to the Super Bowl? Extremely unlikely, but a win against the Rams was very possible. How can someone who blindly proclaimed 17-0 baby!, regardless of circumstance, not also predict us to win the Superbowl, regardless of circumstance? Unless, of course, that person is a magnanimous idiot. Hmmmm...

01-14-2022, 11:06 AM	#12
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,329	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yet, with our defense and many players finally returning to health we could have beaten any of the teams that made the playoffs on any given day. Would we have made it to the Super Bowl? Extremely unlikely, but a win against the Rams was very possible. Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda....we'll never know.

01-14-2022, 11:19 AM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by bobdog86 Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda....we'll never know. Yup. Far too many obstacles (displacement from Ida, injuries to key players, COVID, suspensions, etc.) to overcome. However, it "woulda" been real sweet to end the Rams' season this weekend.

01-14-2022, 11:20 AM	#14
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by leilung I think he's referring to notable losses to non-playoff teams: Panthers, Giants, Dolphins, and Falcons. You really can't hang your hat on beating TB and then losing badly to the Dolphins, regardless of the circumstances. IMHO, true playoff contenders never rely on 'help' to punch their ticket to post season. The Saints controlled their own destiny in the Miami game and blew it. So, I believe the wins against Tampa and Green Bay were more indicative than the Miami loss where the team was forced to play with 4th stringers at QB and across the offensive line. The “next man up” and “no excuses” mentality is all good and fine, but hardly realistic. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that none of the teams that did make the playoffs lost their first and second string QBs for extended periods of time like the Saints did? Do you think it’s mere happenstance that the Saints set a record for the most different starters in the history of the league and just missed the playoffs? I think there is a direct relation. Obviously the Atl, Giant, and Miami losses were tough and on the team. But likes wise the 4 wins against playoff teams were impressive and on the team too. To someone that says there was “nothing” playoff caliber about the team’s body of work I respectively disagree. One or two wins against winning/playoff teams could be a fluke. 4 is not. Hanging the “blew it” label that you are on the Miami game without taking into account the roster situation is silly in my opinion. But hey, that’s just me. Doesn’t mean I’m right. Rugby Saint II and SaintGnome like this.
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01-14-2022, 12:20 PM	#15
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Covid gave Roger another tool and he used it. People are NOW being told to come into work (respiratory therapists in this case) even if they have covid but are otherwise symptom-free. Roger changed the Covid rules DURING THE SEASON such that some teams didn't get hit as hard as others. He did this late in the season. Timing is, of course, everything... None of this Covid crap was necessary. Politics has infiltrated the sport and this is the result. We should all get used to it. It isn't changing. Ever. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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01-14-2022, 01:13 PM	#16
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,536 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by TheOak There was nothing playoff caliber about the 2021 New Orleans Saints body of work. Defense. UK_WhoDat, AsylumGuido, K Major and 1 others like this.

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01-16-2022, 08:59 AM	#18
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by leilung The Saints controlled their own destiny in the Miami game and blew it. 16 players OUT of that MNF due to Covid … No excuse but that simply wasn’t a fair fight. UK_WhoDat, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by K Major 16 players OUT of that MNF due to Covid … No excuse but that simply wasn’t a fair fight. The league also changed COVID protocols about a week or so later. Those changes allowed Niners players to participate in their final game against the Rams that would not have been eligible had the protocols stayed the same. Different rules for different teams. saintfan, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

01-16-2022, 10:09 AM	#20
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Extra game cost Saints a playoff spot Originally Posted by Boston Saint The league also changed COVID protocols about a week or so later. Those changes allowed Niners players to participate in their final game against the Rams that would not have been eligible had the protocols stayed the same. Different rules for different teams. My point too. Yet another example of the NFL putting some thing ahead of fair play. Rugby Saint II, K Major and Boston Saint like this.