2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Rugby Saint II · 06-18-2022, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If only he'd worked hard on answering the Coaching Staff's calls 2 years ago.

I appreciate the time he's putting in now but I wish he had stayed in touch to get the proper treatment. The man lost a lot of fans and I'm one of them! I won't be happy with him until he proves that he is a team player. Until then I've got him on a short leash ready to take him to the trade table.

I want someone playing for the team who cares about more than just themselves. He turned into a Diva like his uncle Keyshawn. That's just selfish and I don't like it. I'm not a hater but I'm deeply disappointed in how much effort he put into avoiding the training staff, which was little to none!

Yes, I still have a problem with paying him all that money to not be available because he solely chose not to answer the damn phone.

dizzle88 · 06-18-2022, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I appreciate the time he's putting in now but I wish he had stayed in touch to get the proper treatment. The man lost a lot of fans and I'm one of them! I won't be happy with him until he proves that he is a team player. Until then I've got him on a short leash ready to take him to the trade table.

I want someone playing for the team who cares about more than just themselves. He turned into a Diva like his uncle Keyshawn. That's just selfish and I don't like it. I'm not a hater but I'm deeply disappointed in how much effort he put into avoiding the training staff, which was little to none!

Yes, I still have a problem with paying him all that money to not be available because he solely chose not to answer the damn phone.

Hit the nail right on the head Rugs.

When he was a rookie I was wowed by his determination and how hard he worked, but the success he had early on has really gone to his head.
Cryptic Tweets, arguing with NFL players because they didn't include you in their fictitious scenarios, ignoring coaches calls whilst being paid an absolute ton.

When Brees left, Thomas had an opportunity to be the "Cam Jordan" or "Demario" of the offense and lead by example, which he didn't do.

I personally don't think he'll ever get back to how he was before, and therefore think we need to move on when it's financially viable for the team to do so.

Allen seems to value the WR position, one can be found that values team first.

halloween 65 · 06-18-2022, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Hit the nail right on the head Rugs.

When he was a rookie I was wowed by his determination and how hard he worked, but the success he had early on has really gone to his head.
Cryptic Tweets, arguing with NFL players because they didn't include you in their fictitious scenarios, ignoring coaches calls whilst being paid an absolute ton.

When Brees left, Thomas had an opportunity to be the "Cam Jordan" or "Demario" of the offense and lead by example, which he didn't do.

I personally don't think he'll ever get back to how he was before, and therefore think we need to move on when it's financially viable for the team to do so.

Allen seems to value the WR position, one can be found that values team first.

I think that we're pretty loaded at wr now, even if Thomas was here or not.

AsylumGuido · 06-18-2022, 06:30 PM

The hate is great.

The man's a proven stud on my team and until we see him play this season I have no reason not to expect the best.

I'm hearing more negativity here related to what is perceived as a diva attitude than what he can do.

Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments.

SaintGnome · 06-18-2022, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The hate is great.

The man's a proven stud on my team and until we see him play this season I have no reason not to expect the best.

I'm hearing more negativity here related to what is perceived as a diva attitude than what he can do.

Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments.

I'm not sure why "having concerns" = hate

Boston Saint · 06-19-2022, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I'm not sure why "having concerns" = hate

It’s evidence how correct saintfan was about him all along.

Rugby Saint II · 06-19-2022, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The hate is great.

The man's a proven stud on my team and until we see him play this season I have no reason not to expect the best.

I'm hearing more negativity here related to what is perceived as a diva attitude than what he can do.

Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments.

Once again Guido, there is no hate, just a deep lack of respect and disappointment for a man who gladly cashed his checks but refused proper medical treatment and advice from professionals thinking he knew more than science. It's not that I hate the man but I hate what he did to the team.

And before you counter let me remind you that he was paid to be on the field and he poorly chose to go with advice outside the team Dr's, which I don't hold against him. I just wish that he had made at least one good decision between not getting the advised treatment or at least answering the damn phone.

He is not a team player and anyone who played team sports known the importance of being a willing member of the team. I don't hate him but I seriously dislike him. I don't hate Eli Apple either but I put them in the same class. They don't deserve the support of the Saints and their fans. I understand your undying support of Saints players but "Come on Man." He is not the same team player I grew to love. He may be the same player, and I hope he is, but I'll never look at him the same. He's been a detriment to to the Saints lately and I will not forgive him. I will never like him again even if he produces top numbers again.

He reminds Me of Steve Smith who hit his team mate when he wasn't looking and broke his jaw. I don't think he ever played again, although I could be wrong about that, but I'm definitely right about Thomas being a Diva jerk.

Boston Saint · 06-19-2022, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments.

Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples.

Rugby Saint II · 06-19-2022, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples.

Apparently not...

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2022, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples.

I'm now reading posts. Been busy running an estate sale for the past week for my 95 year old mother-in-law.

I'm seeing clear examples of why people have formed the opinion that they don't like him. Mainly his reaction, like many others, to Drew's baited statement about kneeling during the anthem and his decision to trust his personal sources to wait before going down the surgery path. Add to that his supposedly ignoring attempts to contact him. Those are all perfectly viable reason to dislike him, I suppose. But, none of those are what I would classify as "diva" behavior. A diva is defined as someone who is temperamental and hard to please. A diva will go to the press to complain about touches for example. Antonio Brown is a diva. It's all about him and he let's everyone know that. Michael Thomas is never out there spouting off or complaining.

Once again, I understand why some of you dislike him, but I just haven't seen that claimed "diva" tag being accurate.

06-18-2022, 11:04 AM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,187	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by dizzle88 If only he'd worked hard on answering the Coaching Staff's calls 2 years ago. I appreciate the time he's putting in now but I wish he had stayed in touch to get the proper treatment. The man lost a lot of fans and I'm one of them! I won't be happy with him until he proves that he is a team player. Until then I've got him on a short leash ready to take him to the trade table. I want someone playing for the team who cares about more than just themselves. He turned into a Diva like his uncle Keyshawn. That's just selfish and I don't like it. I'm not a hater but I'm deeply disappointed in how much effort he put into avoiding the training staff, which was little to none! Yes, I still have a problem with paying him all that money to not be available because he solely chose not to answer the damn phone.
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06-18-2022, 12:05 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,542	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I appreciate the time he's putting in now but I wish he had stayed in touch to get the proper treatment. The man lost a lot of fans and I'm one of them! I won't be happy with him until he proves that he is a team player. Until then I've got him on a short leash ready to take him to the trade table. I want someone playing for the team who cares about more than just themselves. He turned into a Diva like his uncle Keyshawn. That's just selfish and I don't like it. I'm not a hater but I'm deeply disappointed in how much effort he put into avoiding the training staff, which was little to none! Yes, I still have a problem with paying him all that money to not be available because he solely chose not to answer the damn phone. Hit the nail right on the head Rugs. When he was a rookie I was wowed by his determination and how hard he worked, but the success he had early on has really gone to his head. Cryptic Tweets, arguing with NFL players because they didn't include you in their fictitious scenarios, ignoring coaches calls whilst being paid an absolute ton. When Brees left, Thomas had an opportunity to be the "Cam Jordan" or "Demario" of the offense and lead by example, which he didn't do. I personally don't think he'll ever get back to how he was before, and therefore think we need to move on when it's financially viable for the team to do so. Allen seems to value the WR position, one can be found that values team first.
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06-18-2022, 04:22 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by dizzle88 Hit the nail right on the head Rugs. When he was a rookie I was wowed by his determination and how hard he worked, but the success he had early on has really gone to his head. Cryptic Tweets, arguing with NFL players because they didn't include you in their fictitious scenarios, ignoring coaches calls whilst being paid an absolute ton. When Brees left, Thomas had an opportunity to be the "Cam Jordan" or "Demario" of the offense and lead by example, which he didn't do. I personally don't think he'll ever get back to how he was before, and therefore think we need to move on when it's financially viable for the team to do so. Allen seems to value the WR position, one can be found that values team first. I think that we're pretty loaded at wr now, even if Thomas was here or not.

06-18-2022, 06:30 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,714	Re: Michael Thomas Progress The hate is great. The man's a proven stud on my team and until we see him play this season I have no reason not to expect the best. I'm hearing more negativity here related to what is perceived as a diva attitude than what he can do. Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments.

06-18-2022, 08:12 PM	#5
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The hate is great. The man's a proven stud on my team and until we see him play this season I have no reason not to expect the best. I'm hearing more negativity here related to what is perceived as a diva attitude than what he can do. Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments. I'm not sure why "having concerns" = hate

06-19-2022, 05:06 AM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by SaintGnome I'm not sure why "having concerns" = hate It’s evidence how correct saintfan was about him all along.

06-19-2022, 11:18 AM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,187	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The hate is great. The man's a proven stud on my team and until we see him play this season I have no reason not to expect the best. I'm hearing more negativity here related to what is perceived as a diva attitude than what he can do. Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments. Once again Guido, there is no hate, just a deep lack of respect and disappointment for a man who gladly cashed his checks but refused proper medical treatment and advice from professionals thinking he knew more than science. It's not that I hate the man but I hate what he did to the team. And before you counter let me remind you that he was paid to be on the field and he poorly chose to go with advice outside the team Dr's, which I don't hold against him. I just wish that he had made at least one good decision between not getting the advised treatment or at least answering the damn phone. He is not a team player and anyone who played team sports known the importance of being a willing member of the team. I don't hate him but I seriously dislike him. I don't hate Eli Apple either but I put them in the same class. They don't deserve the support of the Saints and their fans. I understand your undying support of Saints players but "Come on Man." He is not the same team player I grew to love. He may be the same player, and I hope he is, but I'll never look at him the same. He's been a detriment to to the Saints lately and I will not forgive him. I will never like him again even if he produces top numbers again. He reminds Me of Steve Smith who hit his team mate when he wasn't looking and broke his jaw. I don't think he ever played again, although I could be wrong about that, but I'm definitely right about Thomas being a Diva jerk.
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06-19-2022, 11:50 AM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments. Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples.

06-19-2022, 12:09 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,187	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by Boston Saint Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples. Apparently not...

06-20-2022, 10:58 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,714	Re: Michael Thomas Progress Originally Posted by Boston Saint Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples. I'm now reading posts. Been busy running an estate sale for the past week for my 95 year old mother-in-law. I'm seeing clear examples of why people have formed the opinion that they don't like him. Mainly his reaction, like many others, to Drew's baited statement about kneeling during the anthem and his decision to trust his personal sources to wait before going down the surgery path. Add to that his supposedly ignoring attempts to contact him. Those are all perfectly viable reason to dislike him, I suppose. But, none of those are what I would classify as "diva" behavior. A diva is defined as someone who is temperamental and hard to please. A diva will go to the press to complain about touches for example. Antonio Brown is a diva. It's all about him and he let's everyone know that. Michael Thomas is never out there spouting off or complaining. Once again, I understand why some of you dislike him, but I just haven't seen that claimed "diva" tag being accurate.
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