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saintfan 01-25-2022 07:21 PM

Re: Luke Johnson | Sean Payton steps down as Saints head coach, leaving a monumental legacy behind him
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 942940)
Thanks for everything Payton. You helped gave this city hope when there was very little hope in sight. Wish you success with future endeavors. I figured this would happen when he quit the competition committee. I think he’s over the refs, Covid protocol, and overall hypocrisy of the NFL. Sometimes a man needs to step away for a while.
He will be back on the sidelines in 2023, just hope it’s in the AFC.
I think this is the beginning of the end of NFL football in Louisiana.
I hope Loomis doesn’t bail before he can help get out cap situation in better shape.

I think you nailed it.

The Dude 01-25-2022 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 942851)
If it's true...offense will continue to struggle so we definitely will need to keep playing Top-5 defense...Sign Allen as HC and at least 45% of what's required remains somewhat solid. There will be some moves and swaps on the defense but the template and the expectation stays in place.

I feel like as long as Charmicheal is here our offense will be ok as long as we have personnel. Which is lacking atm.

ChrisXVI 01-25-2022 08:25 PM

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Look on the bright side… the refs won’t hate us anymore!

neugey 01-25-2022 09:00 PM

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If Payton is tired of Goodell's nonsense I wonder if his eventual return to coaching might be with a college team.

jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:37 PM

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Wonder if Raymond's article on NFL bias was part of the calculus in Sean's decision to take a break...

jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:38 PM

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jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:41 PM

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jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:43 PM

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jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:47 PM

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Now that's funny right there - and also tells you Sean is reading this board...


jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:49 PM

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jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:56 PM

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RailBoss 01-25-2022 11:00 PM

Re: Luke Johnson | Sean Payton steps down as Saints head coach, leaving a monumental legacy behind him
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 942953)
Look on the bright side… the refs won’t hate us anymore!

I wouldn't count on that..

jeanpierre 01-25-2022 11:32 PM

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saintfan 01-25-2022 11:33 PM

Re: Luke Johnson | Sean Payton steps down as Saints head coach, leaving a monumental legacy behind him
 
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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 942975)
I wouldn't count on that..

Me neither.

jeanpierre 01-26-2022 08:06 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 08:21 AM

Re: Luke Johnson | Sean Payton steps down as Saints head coach, leaving a monumental legacy behind him
 
I saw someone's analogy to Payton's stepping down that really made sense. They referred to Bill Cowher and how he left coaching. I had followed Cowher and his career closely over the years. I knew his late wife, Kaye, from covering NC State athletics (she and her twin sister Faye played basketball) and he was captain of the football team and team MVP. Cowher's message was extremely similar to what Payton said during his hour and a half press conference. He too had coached for some 15 years with the Steelers. He too said he felt it was just time to step away. He too said while he might consider coaching again someday he just wanted to enjoy life. He too mentioned staying involved with football via broadcasting. It's now been 14 years since Cowher retired and he's the happiest he's been since well before Kaye passed away.

Payton is eight years older than Cowher was at the time. I would not be at all surprised if his coaching days are done, as well. There's nowhere he can coach where he had the freedom and support that he had in New Orleans. He absolutely doesn't need the money. He certainly doesn't need the pressure. His kids are both grown and could be starting families themselves. He said in his press conference that he and Skylene were staying in Louisiana and moving to a new property in New Orleans. It sounds as though he just wants to settle down. He appeared to be genuinely happy and relaxed. Just like Cowher.

saintfan 01-26-2022 08:31 AM

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Somebody's been listening to NFL Radio again. Verbatum, with Cower as the contrast.

Somebody has no idea what another team might offer Sean. Somebody has no idea about his financial needs, or whether he thrives on pressure, or whether his kids might be starting families.

Now, the guy on NFL Radio knows these things, because he's friends with Sean.

Somebody's trying to be the 'insider' again...likely the same fool who floods this board with crap articles and every tweet known to man...

I wonder who he is?

TheOak 01-26-2022 08:58 AM

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Shouldn’t be a shocker.. Most of us knew he would leave after Brees, didn’t we?

TheOak 01-26-2022 08:59 AM

Re: Luke Johnson | Sean Payton steps down as Saints head coach, leaving a monumental legacy behind him
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942990)
I saw someone's analogy to Payton's stepping down that really made sense. They referred to Bill Cowher and how he left coaching. I had followed Cowher and his career closely over the years. I knew his late wife, Kaye, from covering NC State athletics (she and her twin sister Faye played basketball) and he was captain of the football team and team MVP. Cowher's message was extremely similar to what Payton said during his hour and a half press conference. He too had coached for some 15 years with the Steelers. He too said he felt it was just time to step away. He too said while he might consider coaching again someday he just wanted to enjoy life. He too mentioned staying involved with football via broadcasting. It's now been 14 years since Cowher retired and he's the happiest he's been since well before Kaye passed away.

Payton is eight years older than Cowher was at the time. I would not be at all surprised if his coaching days are done, as well. There's nowhere he can coach where he had the freedom and support that he had in New Orleans. He absolutely doesn't need the money. He certainly doesn't need the pressure. His kids are both grown and could be starting families themselves. He said in his press conference that he and Skylene were staying in Louisiana and moving to a new property in New Orleans. It sounds as though he just wants to settle down. He appeared to be genuinely happy and relaxed. Just like Cowher.

You don’t know jack****. :bng:

AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 943002)
You don’t know jack****. :bng:

You are 100% correct! None of us do, Oak. I have my opinion just like others, though, right?

saintfan 01-26-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943003)
You are 100% correct! None of us do, Oak. I have my opinion just like others, though, right?

The problem is you have a problem leaving people alone. The problem is you are deliberately divisive. The problem is you race-bait. The problem is you have no clue how to debate. The problem is when your ***** starts hurting you start the ad hominem attacks. The problem is you can't look in the mirror and see your true self. NPD. Get help.

The ultimate problem is you're a little :censored:

The Dude 01-26-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 942955)
If Payton is tired of Goodell's nonsense I wonder if his eventual return to coaching might be with a college team.

Doubt it. It will be with a team the league wants to see in the Super Bowl. A team in a big market or a team with a new stadium. The NFL officials always favor such teams. I imagine it will be one of the NFL darlings like the Cowboys.

Either way **** me. This sucks. I remember doing work on some things Katrina screwed up when I first heard about the hire. This means a lot more than simply losing a coach. For people who live here there’s a deeper emotional connection.

I hope he comes back in a couple years.

AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 10:08 AM

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Payton hitting up Twitter this morning.




AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 10:13 AM

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jeanpierre 01-26-2022 10:31 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 10:45 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 10:58 AM

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One excerpt from Trotter's article above dealt with a part of what Payton said yesterday that also stood out to me.

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As he met with reporters for one final time, he looked both comfortable and pained. He didn't have the visor on his head, whistle around his neck, or Saints shirt or pullover that seemed a daily staple. Instead he wore a collarless gray shirt, because, he said, his late mother once told him the color matched his eyes. Those eyes clouded during parts of his address, like when asked: Why now?

"I just felt like this season -- it was challenging for everyone -- but, man, I felt like it was time," he said. "I kind of knew heading into training camp, but you don't share that with anyone. You think, 'Let's see how the season goes.' And we're working hard and ..."

Payton paused and reached for a water bottle. He took a big gulp, then continued: "I felt the time was right for me. It's something I've been thinking about. You have close friends in the industry; I've lost a few close friends in this industry in the last two or three years. And forget football, there's a lot of other things (that are important). There's a lot of sacrifices you make. Not many get to choose their terms, and I looked at it as an opportunity to see my kids more, to travel more, to get in better shape. ... The attention to details are so important they can be exhausting, and so I felt as this season was winding down that it was the right thing. The last week and half I've gotten comfortable with that."

AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 11:37 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 12:58 PM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 01:00 PM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 01:11 PM

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Talk about leaving a legacy. :D


darksoul35 01-26-2022 01:28 PM

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Im sick AF over this. Just please lets not go back to the paper bags.

Boston Saint 01-26-2022 02:01 PM

Re: Luke Johnson | Sean Payton steps down as Saints head coach, leaving a monumental legacy behind him
 
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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 943056)
Im sick AF over this. Just please lets not go back to the paper bags.

Hang in there bro. The bag days “Ain’t” gonna happen again!

AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 02:44 PM

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jeanpierre 01-26-2022 06:50 PM

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jeanpierre 01-26-2022 09:29 PM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2022 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943096)

Who the hell is Michael Fazende?

saintfan 01-26-2022 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943097)
Who the hell is Michael Fazende?

I'm sure you sailed with him on the S.S. Minnow.

https://i2.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-...01%2C475&ssl=1

AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 08:45 AM

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For anyone that didn't see the entire session with Payton here's some of the top quotes and the questions that prompted them.


AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 08:49 AM

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Read down in this same link because there's another good article by Triplett ...

Or here's the direct link.

Sean Payton put the New Orleans Saints in a 'better' place, but what's next?


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