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Rugby Saint II 01-27-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943060)
Hang in there bro. The bag days “Ain’t” gonna happen again!

Sean Payton set this organization up nicely so that it runs smoothly with or without him. I would imagine that we would have another Lombardi long before we see the paper bags again. Who Dat!

jeanpierre 01-27-2022 10:56 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943128)

Saw something a couple of days ago saying the Bears called but were told he wasn't interested.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 11:20 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 11:29 AM

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Great Payton interview with Dan Patrick! Sounds like he knows a move to TV means a multi year commitment and wants to do it even while not ruling out coaching later.


FinSaint 01-27-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 943125)
Sean Payton set this organization up nicely so that it runs smoothly with or without him. I would imagine that we would have another Lombardi long before we see the paper bags again. Who Dat!

I think the ownership matters a lot as well when it comes to sustained success - I'd imagine Mrs. Benson is at the top of the list in that regard.

Some question who would want to come to be the HC for the Saints with all the challenges they are facing, but on the flip side of that the Saints have a strong structural foundation as a franchise.

Loomis and Ireland are great partners for whoever becomes the next HC.

Boston Saint 01-27-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 943144)
I think the ownership matters a lot as well when it comes to sustained success - I'd imagine Mrs. Benson is at the top of the list in that regard.

Some question who would want to come to be the HC for the Saints with all the challenges they are facing, but on the flip side of that the Saints have a strong structural foundation as a franchise.

Loomis and Ireland are great partners for whoever becomes the next HC.

Is she the only female owner in the NFL?

AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 943145)
Is she the only female owner in the NFL?

No. Lions, Bears, and Titans also have female owners.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 943144)
I think the ownership matters a lot as well when it comes to sustained success - I'd imagine Mrs. Benson is at the top of the list in that regard.

Some question who would want to come to be the HC for the Saints with all the challenges they are facing, but on the flip side of that the Saints have a strong structural foundation as a franchise.

Loomis and Ireland are great partners for whoever becomes the next HC.

As I've heard more times than I can count, there are only 32 head coaching positions in the NFL and the least attractive of which is one of the most desired positions in sports.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 12:15 PM

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FinSaint 01-27-2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943147)
As I've heard more times than I can count, there are only 32 head coaching positions in the NFL and the least attractive of which is one of the most desired positions in sports.

Sure, but my point was more about attracting the most sought after candidate when positions are open on multiple teams.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2022 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 943152)
Sure, but my point was more about attracting the most sought after candidate when positions are open on multiple teams.

Yeah, I get you. Some people see the Saints as unattractive, however, because of whatever hurdles they have faced recently. But as you pointed out, the structure of the Saints ownership and front office are seen by others as very attractive and rightly so.

jeanpierre 01-27-2022 03:40 PM

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Was reading this retweet and thinking how humbled some of these players are feeling today...


jeanpierre 01-27-2022 06:27 PM

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The Dude 01-27-2022 10:09 PM

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I’m gonna miss moments like our 7-9 seasons when he would show up for his post game press conference coked out of his gourd.

rezburna 01-27-2022 10:18 PM

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I want to be the head coach.

AsylumGuido 01-28-2022 08:04 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-28-2022 08:12 AM

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Rugby Saint II 01-28-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 942835)
Jesus going to be some rough years ahead. Losing a Hall of Fame QB and now a Hall a Fame Coach back to back. Won't be a easy transition.

It only took Payton three years to win a Lombardi. A good coach and FO(?) can get us out of this mess fairly quickly. One thing about Payton, if there is a player he covets he will move heaven and earth to make them a Saint. I hope we bring in strong leadership to continue our winning ways that Payton developed.

jeanpierre 01-28-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 943225)
It only took Payton three years to win a Lombardi. A good coach and FO(?) can get us out of this mess fairly quickly. One thing about Payton, if there is a player he covets he will move heaven and earth to make them a Saint. I hope we bring in strong leadership to continue our winning ways that Payton developed.

We definitely need a stronger GM with veto power over the HC on personnel decisions...

jeanpierre 01-28-2022 05:22 PM

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AsylumGuido 01-28-2022 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943247)
We definitely need a stronger GM with veto power over the HC on personnel decisions...

You know as well as I do that Loomis is going nowhere until he chooses, but I can see a restructure with Ireland being moved to the sole personnel position with Loomis continuing the mastering of the cap management.

Rugby Saint II 01-29-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943247)
We definitely need a stronger GM with veto power over the HC on personnel decisions...

Ireland?

AsylumGuido 01-29-2022 03:13 PM

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jeanpierre 01-30-2022 02:13 PM

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jnormand 01-30-2022 02:20 PM

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I really wish he wouldn't have left. I hate that he'll be coaching somewhere else in a year or 2.

jeanpierre 01-30-2022 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 943355)
I really wish he wouldn't have left. I hate that he'll be coaching somewhere else in a year or 2.

It was time. Change can be good...

saintfan 01-30-2022 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943423)
It was time. Change can be good...

Yep. For everyone. :bng:

Crusader 01-31-2022 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943423)
It was time. Change can be good...

Has any HC except for BB won a SB in his second decade with a team? I've been searching online but have not been able to find this.

AsylumGuido 01-31-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 943430)
Has any HC except for BB won a SB in his second decade with a team? I've been searching online but have not been able to find this.

Bill Cowher won his in his 14th year (2005 season) with the Steelers. Chuck Noll won his 3rd and 4th SB's in his 10th and 11th years as head coach (1978 & 1979).

Landry won his in his 12th and 18th seasons as head coach with Dallas. '71 & '77

saintfan 01-31-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943440)
Bill Cowher won his in his 14th year (2005 season) with the Steelers. Chuck Noll won his 3rd and 4th SB's in his 10th and 11th years as head coach (1978 & 1979).

Landry won his in his 12th and 18th seasons as head coach with Dallas. '71 & '77

Nice googling there little speedo, or did you just happen to recall all that info off the top of your pea brain?

:rolleyes:

jeanpierre 01-31-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 943430)
Has any HC except for BB won a SB in his second decade with a team? I've been searching online but have not been able to find this.

Don Shula with Dan Marino lost to the 49ers in the 1982 season...

Great Point...

AsylumGuido 01-31-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943445)
Don Shula with Dan Marino lost to the 49ers in the 1982 season...

Great Point...

Beyond Cowher, Noll, and Landry the only other one I could think of was Joe Gibbs winning his third Lombardi with the Redskins in 1991, his 11th year there. I haven't been able to think of any others that fit the bill. One factor to consider is the rarity of coaches even making it to a second decade with the same team. Andy Reid with the Eagles comes to mind. Shula, of course, with the Dolphins.

Crusader 01-31-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943440)
Bill Cowher won his in his 14th year (2005 season) with the Steelers. Chuck Noll won his 3rd and 4th SB's in his 10th and 11th years as head coach (1978 & 1979).

Landry won his in his 12th and 18th seasons as head coach with Dallas. '71 & '77

Good stuff! I couldn't find that. Seems like its quite rare then. Change might be good.

Now lets pick Allen and hope he is as succesful as BB as HC for his second team :-D :-D

AsylumGuido 02-06-2022 01:18 PM

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SaintGnome 02-09-2022 12:26 PM

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Cam was on GM football today and said matter of fact-ly that coach left to go to a big market team.
https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-cam-...e-plays-chess-

iceshack149 02-09-2022 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 944416)
Cam was on GM football today and said matter of fact-ly that coach lesft to go to a big market team.
https://www.nfl.com/news/saints-cam-...e-plays-chess-


Fine. Do it soon, though. We want compensation!

AsylumGuido 02-09-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 944419)
Fine. Do it soon, though. We want compensation!

I am not sure Cam was thinking about that aspect.

saintfan 02-09-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 944421)
I am not sure Cam was thinking about that aspect.

Then tell us, oh soothsayer, what was on his mind...

https://i.imgflip.com/1iqfeu.jpg

AsylumGuido 02-12-2022 11:12 AM

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