Head Coach Search

SaintGnome · 02-04-2022, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans.

he does?

Budsdrinker · 02-04-2022, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans.

Well, in 2012 without Payton, Carmichael called the plays and we had 3rd rank
offense. Only problem is we had 31st ranked defense so I think we can say Carmichael can call plays on his own. Not that I dislike Bienemy, he has always had Reid on the sidelines with him and not sure on his play calling abilities. Now, would he keep Carmichael? I still believe Allen will become head coach, the only position I think is a toss up is DC. Richard or Nielsen. I would lean towards Richard but again I'm just a fan.

AsylumGuido · 02-04-2022, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans.

Yup. Pretty much the same duties, although Bieniemy may have more a role in the actual game planning than Carmichael has had in the past. Both are involved, but from what I have read Bieniemy has more of a lead in that aspect. Of course, with both Payton and Brees gone it may all be on Carmichael ... if he stays.

AsylumGuido · 02-04-2022, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Well, in 2012 without Payton, Carmichael called the plays and we had 3rd rank
offense. Only problem is we had 31st ranked defense so I think we can say Carmichael can call plays on his own. Not that I dislike Bienemy, he has always had Reid on the sidelines with him and not sure on his play calling abilities. Now, would he keep Carmichael? I still believe Allen will become head coach, the only position I think is a toss up is DC. Richard or Nielsen. I would lean towards Richard but again I'm just a fan.

If Allen gets the job we might see him with the same degree of involvement in the defense as what Payton had with the offense.

AsylumGuido · 02-04-2022, 08:46 AM

rezburna · 02-04-2022, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

So Bienemy has been at KC under Andy Reid, has Mahomes, Hill, Kielce and Edwards Helaire to name a few and Reid calls the plays. So how would exactly he be a fit for the Saints?

Sean Payton had never been a head coach either. He was a quarterbacks coach before he got here. What plays was he calling?

AsylumGuido · 02-04-2022, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Sean Payton had never been a head coach either. He was a quarterbacks coach before he got here. What plays was he calling?

Payton did have playcalling duties with the Giants for awhile, but he was stripped of those duties in October 2002.

Oct 31, 2002 — Come Sunday night, Payton will be on the sideline at Giants Stadium, stripped of the play-calling duties that define his role with the team.

He seemed to pick it up later to a decent degree.

K Major · 02-04-2022, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...36398629310471

Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire.

Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons.

FinSaint · 02-04-2022, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire.

Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons.

A much better hire for a HC than Leftwich would've been IMO.

iceshack149 · 02-04-2022, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire.

Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons.

I wouldn't have been upset if the Saints brought in Pederson. Now I'm pretty much all in on Dennis Allen.

02-04-2022, 08:18 AM	#261
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans. he does? iceshack149 likes this.

02-04-2022, 08:19 AM	#262
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans. Well, in 2012 without Payton, Carmichael called the plays and we had 3rd rank offense. Only problem is we had 31st ranked defense so I think we can say Carmichael can call plays on his own. Not that I dislike Bienemy, he has always had Reid on the sidelines with him and not sure on his play calling abilities. Now, would he keep Carmichael? I still believe Allen will become head coach, the only position I think is a toss up is DC. Richard or Nielsen. I would lean towards Richard but again I'm just a fan.

02-04-2022, 08:25 AM	#263
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,468	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Same could be said of Pete Carmichael who gets universal praise amongst Saints fans. Yup. Pretty much the same duties, although Bieniemy may have more a role in the actual game planning than Carmichael has had in the past. Both are involved, but from what I have read Bieniemy has more of a lead in that aspect. Of course, with both Payton and Brees gone it may all be on Carmichael ... if he stays.

02-04-2022, 08:27 AM	#264
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,468	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Well, in 2012 without Payton, Carmichael called the plays and we had 3rd rank offense. Only problem is we had 31st ranked defense so I think we can say Carmichael can call plays on his own. Not that I dislike Bienemy, he has always had Reid on the sidelines with him and not sure on his play calling abilities. Now, would he keep Carmichael? I still believe Allen will become head coach, the only position I think is a toss up is DC. Richard or Nielsen. I would lean towards Richard but again I'm just a fan. If Allen gets the job we might see him with the same degree of involvement in the defense as what Payton had with the offense.

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02-04-2022, 08:57 AM	#266
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,683	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat So Bienemy has been at KC under Andy Reid, has Mahomes, Hill, Kielce and Edwards Helaire to name a few and Reid calls the plays. So how would exactly he be a fit for the Saints? Sean Payton had never been a head coach either. He was a quarterbacks coach before he got here. What plays was he calling? bobdog86 likes this.

02-04-2022, 09:29 AM	#267
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,468	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by rezburna Sean Payton had never been a head coach either. He was a quarterbacks coach before he got here. What plays was he calling? Payton did have playcalling duties with the Giants for awhile, but he was stripped of those duties in October 2002. Oct 31, 2002 — Come Sunday night, Payton will be on the sideline at Giants Stadium, stripped of the play-calling duties that define his role with the team. He seemed to pick it up later to a decent degree.

02-04-2022, 10:29 AM	#268
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,078 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...36398629310471 Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire. Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons.

02-04-2022, 11:14 AM	#269
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,957	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by K Major Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire. Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons. A much better hire for a HC than Leftwich would've been IMO.

02-04-2022, 11:44 AM	#270
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,110 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by K Major Jacksonville fans should be absolutely elated with this HC hire. Doug is a MASSIVE upgrade over Urban Meyer. He'll get that franchise back to respectable within 3 seasons. I wouldn't have been upset if the Saints brought in Pederson. Now I'm pretty much all in on Dennis Allen.