Head Coach Search

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2022, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Seems the Rooney Rule isn't having the desired outcome. I can understand why some may be frustrated.

So what is the answer? Is there a number of head coaches that give people a better sense that things are "fair", "balanced", "more representative"?

Do we consider the number of black representatives across the entire NFL landscape? Coordinators, Assistants, Directors, Executives, Owners, Part owners, NFLPA Representatives, Media, Doctors, Players..... Are those worth reevaluating?

There's been so much progress that I myself am proud to see. The fact that we're now down to fighting over a position that most franchises don't get right for decades at a time just feels disingenuous.

Included in the lawsuit is a section that proposes some things that may help. Maddy Hudak's breakdown of that section is in this tweet. Note points 2. a. and b. This would fairly demonstrate the rational for hiring, not hiring, and/or firing all individuals (black, white, green, purple, male, female, other). I understand that several public entities successfully use this methodology.

saintsfan1976 · 02-03-2022, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Included in the lawsuit is a section that proposes some things that may help. Maddy Hudak's breakdown of that section is in this tweet. Note points 2. a. and b. This would fairly demonstrate the rational for hiring, not hiring, and/or firing all individuals (black, white, green, purple, male, female, other). I understand that several public entities successfully use this methodology.

https://twitter.com/MaddyHudak_94/st...06454676770816

These numbers aren't necessarily evidence of racism or injustice.

His examples are full of flawed logic in my opinion.

1a - so who do you take ownership from? Do you create a new franchise out of thin air to be specifically black owned?

1b - how is this not already happening

2a - good luck finding written examples that will satisfy disgruntled candidates

2b - slippery slope. too many factors can influence the decision to employ a HC and good luck comparing "well, so and so did the same thing with a different roster and different division and different owners"

3, 4, 5 - correct me if I'm wrong already exist.

02-03-2022, 07:58 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Seems the Rooney Rule isn't having the desired outcome. I can understand why some may be frustrated. So what is the answer? Is there a number of head coaches that give people a better sense that things are "fair", "balanced", "more representative"? Do we consider the number of black representatives across the entire NFL landscape? Coordinators, Assistants, Directors, Executives, Owners, Part owners, NFLPA Representatives, Media, Doctors, Players..... Are those worth reevaluating? There's been so much progress that I myself am proud to see. The fact that we're now down to fighting over a position that most franchises don't get right for decades at a time just feels disingenuous. Included in the lawsuit is a section that proposes some things that may help. Maddy Hudak's breakdown of that section is in this tweet. Note points 2. a. and b. This would fairly demonstrate the rational for hiring, not hiring, and/or firing all individuals (black, white, green, purple, male, female, other). I understand that several public entities successfully use this methodology. Twitter

02-03-2022, 08:53 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,974 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Included in the lawsuit is a section that proposes some things that may help. Maddy Hudak's breakdown of that section is in this tweet. Note points 2. a. and b. This would fairly demonstrate the rational for hiring, not hiring, and/or firing all individuals (black, white, green, purple, male, female, other). I understand that several public entities successfully use this methodology. https://twitter.com/MaddyHudak_94/st...06454676770816 These numbers aren't necessarily evidence of racism or injustice. His examples are full of flawed logic in my opinion. 1a - so who do you take ownership from? Do you create a new franchise out of thin air to be specifically black owned? 1b - how is this not already happening 2a - good luck finding written examples that will satisfy disgruntled candidates 2b - slippery slope. too many factors can influence the decision to employ a HC and good luck comparing "well, so and so did the same thing with a different roster and different division and different owners" 3, 4, 5 - correct me if I'm wrong already exist.