Possible Michael Thomas Trade?

hitta · 01-29-2022, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity?

9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? Even if we replicate it, we are borderline playoff team with a very very small chance to win a title. We need to shake things up. You can't be eternally optimistic about everything. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and approach the situation as it really is.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2022, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8?

9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season.

Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable.

I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions.

Who Dat!

saintfan · 01-29-2022, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season.

Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable.

I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions.

Who Dat!

You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift.

Poor little speedo and his ego.

hitta · 01-30-2022, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift.

Poor little speedo and his ego.

It's really like he can't wrap his mind around it. I'm not talking about the last 5 years, I'm not even talking about the 9-8 season this year. When I look at what we have, the cap we have, and just the big picture in general we are kind of positioned to be stuck in mediocrity. We aren't going to have the team we had this year next year. The cap is not going to allow it. We aren't going to have the coach either(which Payton imo had one of his best coaching seasons this year dealing with all the crap). We are not in an ideal situation and we really need to do something to shake things up a bit. AG is one of those guys that thinks you can still win a game down 40 points with 5 seconds left to go. He probably literally sits there and is like "come on... we can do this". He has a hard time seeing the writing on the wall and just dismisses everyone along the way.

saintfan · 01-30-2022, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

It's really like he can't wrap his mind around it. I'm not talking about the last 5 years, I'm not even talking about the 9-8 season this year. When I look at what we have, the cap we have, and just the big picture in general we are kind of positioned to be stuck in mediocrity. We aren't going to have the team we had this year next year. The cap is not going to allow it. We aren't going to have the coach either(which Payton imo had one of his best coaching seasons this year dealing with all the crap). We are not in an ideal situation and we really need to do something to shake things up a bit. AG is one of those guys that thinks you can still win a game down 40 points with 5 seconds left to go. He probably literally sits there and is like "come on... we can do this". He has a hard time seeing the writing on the wall and just dismisses everyone along the way.

Well if you ask speedo the cap doesn't matter, but no reason to ask that idiot anyway.

I'm not happy Sean left, but I see it as opportunity. We need a fresh look at a few things maybe. I don't know. We have a find a QB that's for sure. I'd sell the farm for the right one. See Joe Burrow.

01-29-2022, 02:10 PM	#1
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mediocrity? We've won more games than all but one franchise over the past five years. How is that mediocrity? 9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? Even if we replicate it, we are borderline playoff team with a very very small chance to win a title. We need to shake things up. You can't be eternally optimistic about everything. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and approach the situation as it really is.
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01-29-2022, 02:22 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by hitta 9-8 is mediocrity. We don't have Brees. We need a QB really bad. Our players aren't getting younger. I think we need to start from the ground floor and build up again or we are going to be stuck in this phase. We need to find a QB and build around him. We may have to endure a couple of bad seasons. Without Payton, do you really think we are going to replicate the 9-8? 9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season. Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable. I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions. Who Dat! rezburna likes this.
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01-29-2022, 03:00 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido 9-8 with the first full month being displaced by Hurricane Ida. 9-8 with an all-time record number of starters during a season due to injuries and COVID. 9-8 with the starting QB going down in the 7th game. 9-8 without arguably the best WR in the game and clutch placekicker for the entire season. 9-8 with 22 players out with COVID for a single game. 9-8 playing only seven games at home during a 17 game season. Context is all important. 9-8 given all the team faced is far from mediocre. It is remarkable. I respect what you think we should do, but I am relieved we have who we have making the actual decisions. Who Dat! You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift. Poor little speedo and his ego.

01-30-2022, 05:52 PM	#4
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,331	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by saintfan You don't respect anyone - even yourself. So then we're not talking about the last 5 years? Nice deflection/shift. Poor little speedo and his ego. It's really like he can't wrap his mind around it. I'm not talking about the last 5 years, I'm not even talking about the 9-8 season this year. When I look at what we have, the cap we have, and just the big picture in general we are kind of positioned to be stuck in mediocrity. We aren't going to have the team we had this year next year. The cap is not going to allow it. We aren't going to have the coach either(which Payton imo had one of his best coaching seasons this year dealing with all the crap). We are not in an ideal situation and we really need to do something to shake things up a bit. AG is one of those guys that thinks you can still win a game down 40 points with 5 seconds left to go. He probably literally sits there and is like "come on... we can do this". He has a hard time seeing the writing on the wall and just dismisses everyone along the way.
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01-30-2022, 05:57 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Possible Michael Thomas Trade? Originally Posted by hitta It's really like he can't wrap his mind around it. I'm not talking about the last 5 years, I'm not even talking about the 9-8 season this year. When I look at what we have, the cap we have, and just the big picture in general we are kind of positioned to be stuck in mediocrity. We aren't going to have the team we had this year next year. The cap is not going to allow it. We aren't going to have the coach either(which Payton imo had one of his best coaching seasons this year dealing with all the crap). We are not in an ideal situation and we really need to do something to shake things up a bit. AG is one of those guys that thinks you can still win a game down 40 points with 5 seconds left to go. He probably literally sits there and is like "come on... we can do this". He has a hard time seeing the writing on the wall and just dismisses everyone along the way. Well if you ask speedo the cap doesn't matter, but no reason to ask that idiot anyway. I'm not happy Sean left, but I see it as opportunity. We need a fresh look at a few things maybe. I don't know. We have a find a QB that's for sure. I'd sell the farm for the right one. See Joe Burrow.