Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

Feeling this

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I get your sentiment Papz, but the “limbo” you describe is a VERY successful team that could not get Over the hump because the NFL screwed us too often. I don’t want to revert to the years of the “Aints” and Mike Ditka where we were a laughing stock. Some people forget how easy it is to slip back into that stage of crappiness. Many, MANY franchises would love to have been in the “limbo” or whatever some want to call it that the Saints have existed in over the last 16 years. Yet some like bako want to ***** about how we weren’t more successful. The entitlement some fans feel amazes me

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

Coming from the one guy who is almost as bad as Guido, that's rich.

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In an older post I listed the gut-wrenching ways each of the last 5 seasons ended. Last second, last play, terrible call....

I wondered then "how do we find the fortitude to keep fighting"

Maybe it broke Sean Payton. Him quitting the comp committee may have been the writing on the wall.

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Excellent thought. Here we are as fans taking the losses and wins to heart. It has to be minuscule compared to how the players and coaches feel. We as
fans can only imagine the effort and emotion that Payton must have felt.

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According to Jay Glazer the writing was on the wall last summer. Glazer and Payton are close friends and he said it came as no surprise to him at all that Payton was thinking those thoughts. Payton was somewhat ready before 2021 even began. Leaving the competitions committee made sense if he was seriously considering leaving coaching after the season anyway. That was the period on the writing on the wall that you mentioned, saintsfan1976.

The broadcasting booth seems far less stressful in comparison. Can't blame him at all for moving on. Just like Bill Cowher, Jimmy Johnson, and John Madden he can remain close to the game he loves without the stress.

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And consider that effort took basically 12 months a year, 30 days a month, and 16 hours a day. That has to build over the years. He deserves to move on.

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And yet every year anyone who suggested it was an idiot by your measure and you attacked them...even THIS year you attacked them.

Now you can totally see it. LOL I guess your daddy never taught you how to stand for something...

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So close to a ring, for so many seasons in a row. Both Sean's and Drew's legacies come to mind. It all came just so close to being so different...

2017 Won Wild Card playoffs (Panthers) 31–26
Lost Divisional playoffs (at Vikings) 29–24 LAST PLAY

2018 Won Divisional playoffs (Eagles) 20–14
Lost NFC Championship (Rams) 26–23 (OT) NO CALL

2019 Lost Wild Card playoffs (Vikings) 26–20 (OT) LAST PLAY

2020 Won Wild Card playoffs (Bears) 21–9
Lost Divisional playoffs (Buccaneers) 30–20 FOLDED
Drew Brees retires

2021 The season that started with optimism and failed to meet expectations, every single week after.
Sean Payton retires

2022 The most important offseason in sixteen years...

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

How funny now to read this.

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I agree for the most part. I’m just ready to get a new coach and move on. With change comes doubt, but also new hope.

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Excellent thoughts rez! Way to keep things in perspective.

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I would not be so surprised if Payton took the path of Gruden, Madden, etc stayed in a cushy broadcasting gig for a lot longer than just a year.

Maybe Payton saw the deck was stacked against him. Not only did he lose his qb, the team was way over the cap and even if they could retain everyone, there would be no cap left to add missing pieces. He did not want to go through a rebuild and the team cant win without one. Maybe the perfect job will come next year and he will take it, or maybe there wont be the right opening and he will find that the comfortable hours of broadcasting allow him to get back in shape, travel, enjoy time with family, and he does not want to give it up to be Goodells punching bag. If he does go back go coaching, maybe he will pick a big market with a powerful owner who Goodell cannot mess with, such as Dallas or New England.

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Plus he has mad money.

He signed a five-year $37.5 million extension in 2011, which was voided by the NFL in 2012. On December 29, 2012, he signed another five-year $40 million deal. On March 23, 2016, he re-upped for five years worth $42.5 million. His latest contract extension was in 2019 worth $45 million for five years.

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If the original point of this thread is for me to consider being mad at Sean Payton for "quitting"... well, nope, sorry I can't be mad a Sean.
Please tell me at what future point or what scenario would be a "good place" for Sean to (as you say) "quit"? At death?
Sean could've said "Next!" and quit after the SB win. He could've quit after being suspended. He could've quit when Brees "quit". But he didn't. He stayed for 16 seasons. And I can't be mad at him for that.

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He'll keep getting mad money at Fox or wherever. Aikman was getting $8 million per year there. Add in promotional money and Payton can be earning well north of $10 million per year working a fraction of the hours. Of course, he will no longer be collecting on that Saints contract I believe. If fired he would. Quitting should preclude him from salary, but keep him bound through the contract term.

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In his interview with Dan Patrick last week Payton acknowledged that any TV gig would have to be a multi-year commitment. Patrick had pointed out that Romo's broadcast partner, Jim Nantz, said that their last game was their best ever and that it takes years to get to that point. That's when Payton agreed and said he's ready to give it that commitment.

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Dont forget rumor starter.... you know.... Russell Wilson had food poisoning and was leaving the Seahawks.... remember. And Thomas aint going anywhere...and on and on.....:dunce:

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I can't believe Aikman is getting 8 million to make me fall asleep on the couch ... what a gig!

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Sean Payton is the only person to blame for what was not behind Drew Brees. Sean Payton did get tired, he got tired of the ***king leagues BS. His stepping down from the competition committee recently speaks to how much the direction the league is going does not align with the game that he wants to coach.

You can go yell in a mirror as you will not get support for your vitriol from me.

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People in glass houses.....

Careful, people might figure out that your only shtick is plagiarizing, or degrading someone else's shtick.

Wait... they already have.

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Exactly what have I plagiarized? That's total bull****, Oak. I routinely post content from others and always give credit. Claiming that is slanderous. At least I do the work to share the information from others. :disgusted:

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Always the victim huh speedo? You did nothing wrong, and yet you can see with your own eyes the things people have said and will continue to say, and still you deny having done anything wrong. I feel sorry for you...sorta...

You see sir, the disorder is the denial of the disorder. This is why is it very difficult for someone with NPD to ever get any real help. You and my ex-wife are one in the same speedo. You are actually a very sad little man, deep down. I know, and it's okay. For YOUR sake and for the sake of the people around you, get some help man.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...in-narcissists

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

Could we have a Guido vs Saintfan sub-forum created? I don't really have a dog in this fight.

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

I blocked/placed him on ignore several weeks ago, neuguy. If he is still out there slandering me and such it's all on him.

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

Slandering? Slander is a false spoken statement, the legal threshold of which is very high.

What you're going for is libel, but welcome to the next fail on your list, because it'd have to be false. Truth is the defense to any such accusation. Want to see the list? I have one, you know, of all the race-baiting and name calling and personal attacks. I know precisely who you are, thus the list.

And it was never personal between you and me. You got your undies in a wad because I called you out for attacking people. You know it. I know it. Most people here know it too. You made it personal now didn't you?

I'm well-versed speedo, because I was married to NPD for almost a decade. You ain't fooling me little man, and you ain't foolin anyone else either.

Bah hahaha. It ain't slander or libel if it's the truth.

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

He wouldn't show up. I tried many times. He's a little :censored:

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He is raising the animosity on the BNG to an all new level and he likes the attention apparently. :roll:

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

Lay with dogs get ready for fleas. :rolleyes:

Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

Remember, Payton is from the Bill Parcells coaching tree.

Bill Parcells, who has two Super Bowls as coach of the New York Giants also coached the New York Jets, New England Patriots and Cowboys.

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Well said good sir. :p

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Think what you will, He was 143 - 91 against the NFC SOUTH and 21 - 9 against the FailClowns 5 different head coaches in including 2 interim coaches. Parcells coached for 4 different teams. Be happy about what he accomplished