Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away
 

He didn't have Drew anymore. Or a QB worth a damn so he quit. He gave up. I promise you if he had someone in the wings behind Drew worth a damn we would not only possibly be playing to go to the Super Bowl today, he would not have quit.

Let's just use Joe Burrow for example. For all the LSU Homers. And because he turned out to be awesome. Do you honestly think if we had Burrow he would have quit?

He did not retire or "step away". HE QUIT. Let that burn in. He not only quit but he GAVE UP!

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Sean Payton Quit on the Saints When the Going Got Tough

https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/co...ing-got-tough/

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Foxsports, really?

Sean Payton, out of anyone deserved to end it on his own terms, which is what he did.

Not one of us know the toils of a Head Coaching job and what mental and physical tole it takes on someone, he served the team loyally for 15 years and brought a championship to a team that thought they'd never see one.

It's very rare for a HC to serve a team for 15 years, most are shown the door after 2 years.

I for one am grateful for all the years he coached and this team, despite some down years, was always competitive and could always beat top tier teams on any given Sunday.

Thanks for everything Coach, even if it isn't retirement, enjoy whatever life has in store next!

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Well yeah, by definition he certainly did quit. What can we do though? Write him a strongly worded letter? I’m over hearing about Sean Payton. On to the future.

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Blah blah, think he’s deserved to go when he felt the need to do so.

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Well little speedo, you ARE the one who proclaimed he was under contract so he wasn't going anywhere, as if anyone who speculated otherwise was dumb. Can't change that narrative either...

Oooops...
:banana:

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Seriously...A Quitter..I guess we need to look up the definition.

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Ben Maller, the guy with this take, is nothing more than a blowhard. His whole schtick is coming up with ridiculous crap to get clicks. Here's his Twitter bio according to himself:

"Storyteller, provocateur, rabble-rouser, raconteur, professional blabbermouth, sarcasm specialist, doctorate in insomnia, distant relative of Nostradamus."

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Kinda like the ridiculous crap you post as if you're some kind of insider...

Ironic that you attack these professionals for their thoughts and opinions and broadcast yours and challenge anyone who disagrees?

If the writer is a "blowhard", how you YOU self-describe?

Here's your bio:

"Idiot, race-baiter, turd, know-it-all, NPD, professional *******, weak-minded, distant relative of nobody who matters"

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Such a Douche.

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Kevin James? If you think so.

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Beat me to it.

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You'd have to be an idiot to think you weren't the target...

Then again...

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First Off Payton left so what he has that right he didnt quit on a team he gave 16 years or seasons to however that math adds up. A lot of fans here were screaming for him gone....WELL POOF...your wish is the universe command. Payton as well as Drew has a right to be tired have a right to see their families and create those bonds they have missed out on opportunities building due to the COMMITMENT TO THE SAINTS. Sean wish him nothing but the best I never questioned his efforts or commitment to winning with the Saints what more can you ask for. By the way that Netflix movie I actually liked

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Guido, I don't know who you pissed off, but BOY are they adamant about you and your voice in this forum. On a second thought I actually do know but you guys get it...hopefully. #WHODAT

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I have them on "ignore", Rell, so all they are doing is ... well, you get it. ;)

#WHODAT

:bng:

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No you don't. We've already established that. LOL

Little speedo and his ego can't ignore his reputation...

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If this was a boxing match this fight would have broken the record for most rounds and counting

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Not going to tolerate goading members and race-baiting. He's done here with that ****. I told him a very long time ago to stop, after I asked him politely to stop, and we'll go as many rounds as it takes.

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Only one side is punching. I see through your reply quote that saintfan thinks I haven't put him "ignore". Good for him. He can keep posting to air.

:roflmao:

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If it helps any I appreciate all of you guys football and Saints knowledge. Ive learned a lot from alot you guys including Guido I think post with no text or tone can maybe be misconstrued at times because we don't hear voices just read messages and apply the context ourselves. Like eating food with out the ability to smell or taste

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My sarcasm alludes some, for sure.

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Nothing sarcastic about race-baiting speedo, but a whole lot irresponsible, and anyone who'd do that for the sake of his own ego is an evil son of a *****. Own it and get help or just keep on doing what you're doing. Nobody here dislikes you because of anything I do or say, but a lot of people here genuinely don't like you. You have to reconcile that.

Sleep well little speedo. Hopefully your ego will keep you warm...

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How many of us are supposedly on your ignore list? At some point, as the list grows and grows (in theory), a grown man is gonna look at the size of it and ask himself if maybe HE is the problem...cause the rest of us generally get along. Hmmmm...

Just a little wisdom for you, little speedo, and your oversized ego...

:rolleyes:

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CSP left the team at an appropriate time and did not leave us in a lurch. Gave us plenty of time to regroup and hire our next HC before combine/draft and stuff. He retired with class.

If he did this at a bad time such as the middle of the season or cited bogus health reasons (looking at you Urban), I might feel different.

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I couldn't agree more, neuguy.

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Fewer and fewer people care, if anybody ever did.

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That bio is hilarious!

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It may feel like that, but in reality he gave it his all. We got one SB, shoulda been more. 16 hours + days for 16 years takes its toll. Those of us working jobs that work similar long ass hours can empathize. Let him rejoice in his well deserved time off. We as fans can be selfish, but we're people too . It's probably time for new blood anyway. Steelers do it all the time .

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NFL isn't Forever in fact we all know what Glanville said.

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This sounds like something a falcon fan would post.

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He claims he can't remember the last time he was wrong then proceeds to rip a member over a new coach coming in and keeping the current staff, particularly Defensive Coordinatior

"I quickly pointed out that Frank Reich of the Colts inhereted 3 of Josh McDaniels staff," three assistant coaches – defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo and defensive line coach Mike Phair – already had been hired during the post-season, ostensibly to work in concert with McDaniels.

It's okay though he has a built in out he did point out "Not to my knowledge!"

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He's not beneath messaging you and delivering a few backhanded compliments, Keep taunting him, you'll see. Better yet "Play Devil's Advocate" some time. In his own words "I love to debate" you'll soon discover what caveat coves with being on "THE DEBATE TEAM"

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:p:p

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Good grief dude, STFU. You've exceeded the ridiculousness of what you're being critical of.

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When ya got a room full of cockroaches you can close the door and ingore 'em, but the problem doesn't just go away.

Speedo is a pesky little :censored:. NPD must be met full on - clear lines must be drawn and defended. Speedo chose this route. There were options his ego would not accommodate.

Put me on iggy if you feel strongly. No offense taken.

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I don't even care that he quit. I just dislike the fact we won't get compensation until next year and a personnel decision he made that lengthens out our rebuilding process. Sometimes a change is good for everyone(example Andy Reid in Philly). We've been a good football team but stuck in limbo for quite some time. I've been ready for new leadership and Payton quitting has actually re-energized my interest in Saints football.