Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away

SmashMouth · 01-30-2022, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

He didn't have Drew anymore. Or a QB worth a damn so he quit. He gave up. I promise you if he had someone in the wings behind Drew worth a damn we would not only possibly be playing to go to the Super Bowl today, he would not have quit.

Let's just use Joe Burrow for example. For all the LSU Homers. And because he turned out to be awesome. Do you honestly think if we had Burrow he would have quit?

He did not retire or "step away". HE QUIT. Let that burn in. He not only quit but he GAVE UP!

It may feel like that, but in reality he gave it his all. We got one SB, shoulda been more. 16 hours + days for 16 years takes its toll. Those of us working jobs that work similar long ass hours can empathize. Let him rejoice in his well deserved time off. We as fans can be selfish, but we're people too . It's probably time for new blood anyway. Steelers do it all the time .

RailBoss · 01-30-2022, 09:16 PM

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Boston Saint · 01-30-2022, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

He didn't have Drew anymore. Or a QB worth a damn so he quit. He gave up. I promise you if he had someone in the wings behind Drew worth a damn we would not only possibly be playing to go to the Super Bowl today, he would not have quit.

Let's just use Joe Burrow for example. For all the LSU Homers. And because he turned out to be awesome. Do you honestly think if we had Burrow he would have quit?

He did not retire or "step away". HE QUIT. Let that burn in. He not only quit but he GAVE UP!

This sounds like something a falcon fan would post.

vpheughan · 01-31-2022, 08:20 AM

He claims he can't remember the last time he was wrong then proceeds to rip a member over a new coach coming in and keeping the current staff, particularly Defensive Coordinatior

"I quickly pointed out that Frank Reich of the Colts inhereted 3 of Josh McDaniels staff," three assistant coaches – defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo and defensive line coach Mike Phair – already had been hired during the post-season, ostensibly to work in concert with McDaniels.

It's okay though he has a built in out he did point out "Not to my knowledge!"

vpheughan · 01-31-2022, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

If it helps any I appreciate all of you guys football and Saints knowledge. Ive learned a lot from alot you guys including Guido I think post with no text or tone can maybe be misconstrued at times because we don't hear voices just read messages and apply the context ourselves. Like eating food with out the ability to smell or taste

He's not beneath messaging you and delivering a few backhanded compliments, Keep taunting him, you'll see. Better yet "Play Devil's Advocate" some time. In his own words "I love to debate" you'll soon discover what caveat coves with being on "THE DEBATE TEAM"

vpheughan · 01-31-2022, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It may feel like that, but in reality he gave it his all. We got one SB, shoulda been more. 16 hours + days for 16 years takes its toll. Those of us working jobs that work similar long ass hours can empathize. Let him rejoice in his well deserved time off. We as fans can be selfish, but we're people too . It's probably time for new blood anyway. Steelers do it all the time .

vpheughan · 01-31-2022, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by 4everSaint

Sean Payton Quit on the Saints When the Going Got Tough

https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/co...ing-got-tough/

AS YOU WISH!! BUTTERCUP!!

shawnkytonk · 01-31-2022, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

No you don't. We've already established that. LOL

Little speedo and his ego can't ignore his reputation...

Good grief dude, STFU. You've exceeded the ridiculousness of what you're being critical of.

saintfan · 01-31-2022, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Good grief dude, STFU. You've exceeded the ridiculousness of what you're being critical of.

When ya got a room full of cockroaches you can close the door and ingore 'em, but the problem doesn't just go away.

Speedo is a pesky little

. NPD must be met full on - clear lines must be drawn and defended. Speedo chose this route. There were options his ego would not accommodate.

Put me on iggy if you feel strongly. No offense taken.

papz · 01-31-2022, 02:00 PM

I don't even care that he quit. I just dislike the fact we won't get compensation until next year and a personnel decision he made that lengthens out our rebuilding process. Sometimes a change is good for everyone(example Andy Reid in Philly). We've been a good football team but stuck in limbo for quite some time. I've been ready for new leadership and Payton quitting has actually re-energized my interest in Saints football.

01-30-2022, 09:01 PM	#31
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by 4everSaint He didn't have Drew anymore. Or a QB worth a damn so he quit. He gave up. I promise you if he had someone in the wings behind Drew worth a damn we would not only possibly be playing to go to the Super Bowl today, he would not have quit. Let's just use Joe Burrow for example. For all the LSU Homers. And because he turned out to be awesome. Do you honestly think if we had Burrow he would have quit? He did not retire or "step away". HE QUIT. Let that burn in. He not only quit but he GAVE UP! It may feel like that, but in reality he gave it his all. We got one SB, shoulda been more. 16 hours + days for 16 years takes its toll. Those of us working jobs that work similar long ass hours can empathize. Let him rejoice in his well deserved time off. We as fans can be selfish, but we're people too . It's probably time for new blood anyway. Steelers do it all the time . saintfan, jnormand, vpheughan and 4 others like this.

01-30-2022, 10:00 PM	#33
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by 4everSaint He didn't have Drew anymore. Or a QB worth a damn so he quit. He gave up. I promise you if he had someone in the wings behind Drew worth a damn we would not only possibly be playing to go to the Super Bowl today, he would not have quit. Let's just use Joe Burrow for example. For all the LSU Homers. And because he turned out to be awesome. Do you honestly think if we had Burrow he would have quit? He did not retire or "step away". HE QUIT. Let that burn in. He not only quit but he GAVE UP! This sounds like something a falcon fan would post. vpheughan, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

01-31-2022, 08:20 AM	#34
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away He claims he can't remember the last time he was wrong then proceeds to rip a member over a new coach coming in and keeping the current staff, particularly Defensive Coordinatior "I quickly pointed out that Frank Reich of the Colts inhereted 3 of Josh McDaniels staff," three assistant coaches – defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo and defensive line coach Mike Phair – already had been hired during the post-season, ostensibly to work in concert with McDaniels. *It's okay though he has a built in out he did point out "Not to my knowledge!"*
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01-31-2022, 08:29 AM	#35
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by Rell&Gold If it helps any I appreciate all of you guys football and Saints knowledge. Ive learned a lot from alot you guys including Guido I think post with no text or tone can maybe be misconstrued at times because we don't hear voices just read messages and apply the context ourselves. Like eating food with out the ability to smell or taste He's not beneath messaging you and delivering a few backhanded compliments, Keep taunting him, you'll see. Better yet "Play Devil's Advocate" some time. In his own words "I love to debate" you'll soon discover what caveat coves with being on "THE DEBATE TEAM" saintfan, Rell&Gold and K Major like this.
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01-31-2022, 08:38 AM	#36
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by SmashMouth It may feel like that, but in reality he gave it his all. We got one SB, shoulda been more. 16 hours + days for 16 years takes its toll. Those of us working jobs that work similar long ass hours can empathize. Let him rejoice in his well deserved time off. We as fans can be selfish, but we're people too . It's probably time for new blood anyway. Steelers do it all the time . SmashMouth likes this.
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01-31-2022, 08:40 AM	#37
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by 4everSaint Sean Payton Quit on the Saints When the Going Got Tough https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/co...ing-got-tough/ AS YOU WISH!! BUTTERCUP!!
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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by saintfan No you don't. We've already established that. LOL Little speedo and his ego can't ignore his reputation... Good grief dude, STFU. You've exceeded the ridiculousness of what you're being critical of. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

01-31-2022, 01:39 PM	#39
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Good grief dude, STFU. You've exceeded the ridiculousness of what you're being critical of. When ya got a room full of cockroaches you can close the door and ingore 'em, but the problem doesn't just go away. Speedo is a pesky little . NPD must be met full on - clear lines must be drawn and defended. Speedo chose this route. There were options his ego would not accommodate. Put me on iggy if you feel strongly. No offense taken. Rell&Gold likes this.

01-31-2022, 02:00 PM	#40
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Why does no one see the obvious - Sean Payton gave up. He didn't retire/step away I don't even care that he quit. I just dislike the fact we won't get compensation until next year and a personnel decision he made that lengthens out our rebuilding process. Sometimes a change is good for everyone(example Andy Reid in Philly). We've been a good football team but stuck in limbo for quite some time. I've been ready for new leadership and Payton quitting has actually re-energized my interest in Saints football. MatthewT, leilung, saintsfan1976 and 2 others like this.