Alvin Kamara Arrested

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2023, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I completely get your point, however i don't for a second believe that they meant to "only cause broken bones." I think they are extremely lucky he didn't get brain damage or die, because this would be a different conversation altogether.

Kamara may not have been the main aggressor, but he's as culpable as the rest because he's involved. There was a police documentary here in the UK a while back called "one punch," where a young lad, who had never been in trouble before was agitated by an aggressor. The young lad landed one singular punch, the instigator fell and hit his head on a kerb, dead.

It really can be that easy.

Maybe it's different countries, different upbringings / surroundings, just seems odd to me that guys like CGJ are called jerks for making comments, but when Kamara attacks someone it's not that big a deal?

Who knows, maybe it's just me lol

I kind of get what you are saying, diz, but watch the video again. After a few seconds Kamara backs off while the other three keep at it with far more intensity. There are different levels of culpability here and that's why there are different levels of charges. And, as rezburna pointed out, Kamara's guilty plea wasn't a declaration that he did nothing. It included what is a legal reasoning behind his actions that has to be proven to be false by the prosecution ... beyond a shadow of doubt.

As for defending Kamara, it's not only because of the innocent unless proven guilty to me. It's also because of how important the Saints are in my life. Over the last 55 plus years they have become a very important part of my life. It's almost as if I see the whole organization as part of an extended family. I will always stand for and protect my family. That's simply my motivation.

I know most everyone here are fans of the Saints, but each has his or her own take of what that fandom entails. I've seen several long time members of the board here simply hang up their banners and leave during the player protest period. They washed their hands of the Saints and moved on. Clearly their involvement as fans was not as deeply rooted as mine. There is nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's there.

I believe others look at the team as an abstract. A source of entertainment of which they truly enjoy, but with the players and staff being nothing more than pieces on a board that are easily discarded and replaced. They probably even love the abstract as a whole, but its components are nothing more than just that, means to an end.

K Major · 03-03-2023, 11:25 AM

List of needs for New Orleans Saints in 2023.

RB "CHECK"

K Major · 03-03-2023, 11:26 AM

That suspension is coming. You can believe dat.

mapcow · 03-03-2023, 11:28 AM

The Thug needs to go... bye Alvin.

mapcow · 03-03-2023, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

says the rumor mill person.... food poisoning was it..

mapcow · 03-03-2023, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Why would I block you? I enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself.

Not as much as I enjoy reading and adequately point out the idiocy of your posts. along with that quido POS

.....

mapcow · 03-03-2023, 11:40 AM

Saints Win Loss for 2023 season

2 wins (gimme games)
4 wins (nail biter)
11 losses ( sound ass kicking)

rezburna · 03-03-2023, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

That suspension is coming. You can believe dat.

With the trial being July 31st if they could get it pushed back a few months he might can squeeze out another year lol.

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2023, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

With the trial being July 31st if they could get it pushed back a few months he might can squeeze out another year lol.

I mentioned something similar earlier. Any ruling by the league's disciplinary officer will likely be sometime during the season even if there are no continuations. We should have his contribution early, at least.

SmashMouth · 03-03-2023, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

With the trial being July 31st if they could get it pushed back a few months he might can squeeze out another year lol.

I see what you did there with the butt cheeks comment and possible jail time.

03-03-2023, 10:37 AM	#321
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by dizzle88 I completely get your point, however i don't for a second believe that they meant to "only cause broken bones." I think they are extremely lucky he didn't get brain damage or die, because this would be a different conversation altogether. Kamara may not have been the main aggressor, but he's as culpable as the rest because he's involved. There was a police documentary here in the UK a while back called "one punch," where a young lad, who had never been in trouble before was agitated by an aggressor. The young lad landed one singular punch, the instigator fell and hit his head on a kerb, dead. It really can be that easy. Maybe it's different countries, different upbringings / surroundings, just seems odd to me that guys like CGJ are called jerks for making comments, but when Kamara attacks someone it's not that big a deal? Who knows, maybe it's just me lol I kind of get what you are saying, diz, but watch the video again. After a few seconds Kamara backs off while the other three keep at it with far more intensity. There are different levels of culpability here and that's why there are different levels of charges. And, as rezburna pointed out, Kamara's guilty plea wasn't a declaration that he did nothing. It included what is a legal reasoning behind his actions that has to be proven to be false by the prosecution ... beyond a shadow of doubt. As for defending Kamara, it's not only because of the innocent unless proven guilty to me. It's also because of how important the Saints are in my life. Over the last 55 plus years they have become a very important part of my life. It's almost as if I see the whole organization as part of an extended family. I will always stand for and protect my family. That's simply my motivation. I know most everyone here are fans of the Saints, but each has his or her own take of what that fandom entails. I've seen several long time members of the board here simply hang up their banners and leave during the player protest period. They washed their hands of the Saints and moved on. Clearly their involvement as fans was not as deeply rooted as mine. There is nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's there. I believe others look at the team as an abstract. A source of entertainment of which they truly enjoy, but with the players and staff being nothing more than pieces on a board that are easily discarded and replaced. They probably even love the abstract as a whole, but its components are nothing more than just that, means to an end. rezburna likes this.
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03-03-2023, 11:25 AM	#322
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested List of needs for New Orleans Saints in 2023. RB "CHECK" jnormand, SmashMouth and mapcow like this.

03-03-2023, 11:26 AM	#323
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested That suspension is coming. You can believe dat.

03-03-2023, 11:28 AM	#324
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,793	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested The Thug needs to go... bye Alvin.
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03-03-2023, 11:34 AM	#325
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,793	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by AsylumGuido says the rumor mill person.... food poisoning was it..
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03-03-2023, 11:37 AM	#326
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,793	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Why would I block you? I enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself. Not as much as I enjoy reading and adequately point out the idiocy of your posts. along with that quido POS .....
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03-03-2023, 11:40 AM	#327
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03-03-2023, 11:45 AM	#328
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by K Major That suspension is coming. You can believe dat. With the trial being July 31st if they could get it pushed back a few months he might can squeeze out another year lol. AsylumGuido and bobdog86 like this.

03-03-2023, 12:04 PM	#329
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by rezburna With the trial being July 31st if they could get it pushed back a few months he might can squeeze out another year lol. I mentioned something similar earlier. Any ruling by the league's disciplinary officer will likely be sometime during the season even if there are no continuations. We should have his contribution early, at least.

03-03-2023, 12:06 PM	#330
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by rezburna With the trial being July 31st if they could get it pushed back a few months he might can squeeze out another year lol. I see what you did there with the butt cheeks comment and possible jail time. subguy and K Major like this.