Alvin Kamara Arrested

voodooido · 02-07-2022, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That reset button could easily cause the Saints' system to take a couple of decades to reboot. I for one am not ready to return to the days of a chance for a playoff berth being farfetched before the first game is played.

I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and the early 2000’s. I’d do it again to get out of this cap mess.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2022, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and the early 2000’s. I’d do it again to get out of this cap mess.

The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well.

saintfan · 02-07-2022, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well.

Many of what principles? This post doesn't make sense. In fact it looks like you just needed to drop in your .02 but you don't really have anything meaningful to say.

Everything is a matter of perspective. In other words, everything is relative. Keep trying. Who knows? In a few years you might actually have a thought you didn't steal.

By the way, nothing is relative about the speed of light, and nothing is relative about a hard cap number either. Dummy.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2022, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and the early 2000’s. I’d do it again to get out of this cap mess.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well.

I have a bit more time to explain, voodooido. First of all, the excellent interview below with Khai Harley covers several of the philosophies of cap management that the Saints utilize. He points out how they take advantage of GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles) to maximize the cap. He also covers the misconception of "kicking the can down the road".

Secondly, I'll try to give a simple example of that part of their strategy. This utilizes the cost accounting principle of current value versus future value, or the "kicking of the can" referred to above.

In year one we're working with a $100 million dollar cap. Let's assume a 10% annual increase in the cap. In year one a $20M asset counts as (20/100=.20) 20% of the cap.

In year two the cap becomes $110M. That same $20M becomes 20/110=.1818 or 18.18% of the cap.

In year three the cap becomes $121M. That same $20M becomes 20/121=.165 or 16.5% of the cap.

In year four the cap becomes $133.1M. That same $20M becomes 20/133.1=.15 or 15% of the cap.

The cash paid in year one is better accounted for in subsequent periods when it becomes a smaller percentage of the cap. This frees up cap for other assets in all periods. This is the maximization of assets. However, the selling off or trading of assets in a current period negates all of the savings by forcing all future accounting for the costs of those assets into the current period.

Khai Harley talks Saints Salary Cap, Business of NFL Football - YouTube

voodooido · 02-07-2022, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have a bit more time to explain, voodooido. First of all, the excellent interview below with Khai Harley covers several of the philosophies of cap management that the Saints utilize. He points out how they take advantage of GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles) to maximize the cap. He also covers the misconception of "kicking the can down the road".

Secondly, I'll try to give a simple example of that part of their strategy. This utilizes the cost accounting principle of current value versus future value, or the "kicking of the can" referred to above.

In year one we're working with a $100 million dollar cap. Let's assume a 10% annual increase in the cap. In year one a $20M asset counts as (20/100=.20) 20% of the cap.

In year two the cap becomes $110M. That same $20M becomes 20/110=.1818 or 18.18% of the cap.

In year three the cap becomes $121M. That same $20M becomes 20/121=.165 or 16.5% of the cap.

In year four the cap becomes $133.1M. That same $20M becomes 20/133.1=.15 or 15% of the cap.

The cash paid in year one is better accounted for in subsequent periods when it becomes a smaller percentage of the cap. This frees up cap for other assets in all periods. This is the maximization of assets. However, the selling off or trading of assets in a current period negates all of the savings by forcing all future accounting for the costs of those assets into the current period.

Khai Harley talks Saints Salary Cap, Business of NFL Football - YouTube

Wife doesn’t allow me to have money so the cap is beyond my understanding. I just hate always seeing us in the red

02-07-2022, 10:22 AM	#1
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,820	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That reset button could easily cause the Saints' system to take a couple of decades to reboot. I for one am not ready to return to the days of a chance for a playoff berth being farfetched before the first game is played. I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and the early 2000’s. I’d do it again to get out of this cap mess.
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02-07-2022, 10:30 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by voodooido I lived through the 80’s, 90’s and the early 2000’s. I’d do it again to get out of this cap mess. The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well.

02-07-2022, 11:17 AM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The cap is a matter of perspective. I personally have no issue with the way Loomis and Khai Harley manage it. It's all founded on sound cost management principles. More and more franchises are beginning to adopt many of those same principles to maximize their assets, as well. Many of what principles? This post doesn't make sense. In fact it looks like you just needed to drop in your .02 but you don't really have anything meaningful to say. Everything is a matter of perspective. In other words, everything is relative. Keep trying. Who knows? In a few years you might actually have a thought you didn't steal. By the way, nothing is relative about the speed of light, and nothing is relative about a hard cap number either. Dummy.
	C'mon Man...

02-07-2022, 05:23 PM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,820	Re: Alvin Kamara Arrested Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have a bit more time to explain, voodooido. First of all, the excellent interview below with Khai Harley covers several of the philosophies of cap management that the Saints utilize. He points out how they take advantage of GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles) to maximize the cap. He also covers the misconception of "kicking the can down the road". Secondly, I'll try to give a simple example of that part of their strategy. This utilizes the cost accounting principle of current value versus future value, or the "kicking of the can" referred to above. In year one we're working with a $100 million dollar cap. Let's assume a 10% annual increase in the cap. In year one a $20M asset counts as (20/100=.20) 20% of the cap. In year two the cap becomes $110M. That same $20M becomes 20/110=.1818 or 18.18% of the cap. In year three the cap becomes $121M. That same $20M becomes 20/121=.165 or 16.5% of the cap. In year four the cap becomes $133.1M. That same $20M becomes 20/133.1=.15 or 15% of the cap. The cash paid in year one is better accounted for in subsequent periods when it becomes a smaller percentage of the cap. This frees up cap for other assets in all periods. This is the maximization of assets. However, the selling off or trading of assets in a current period negates all of the savings by forcing all future accounting for the costs of those assets into the current period. Khai Harley talks Saints Salary Cap, Business of NFL Football - YouTube Wife doesn’t allow me to have money so the cap is beyond my understanding. I just hate always seeing us in the red
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