Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC

saintsfan1976 · 02-10-2022, 12:27 PM

I'm still hoping we find a way to bring Eric Bieniemy in. If it takes money or an elevated title but having him focused on the offense would be tremendous AND mean great things for us at QB.... whoever that may be.

AsylumGuido · 02-10-2022, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I'm still hoping we find a way to bring Eric Bieniemy in. If it takes money or an elevated title but having him focused on the offense would be tremendous AND mean great things for us at QB.... whoever that may be.

The OC position is still available. I'm hoping the same.

The Dude · 02-11-2022, 12:24 PM

Does anyone know what Carmichael is going to do? Is he just avoiding signing another contract until he can follow Payton?

MatthewT · 02-11-2022, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Does anyone know what Carmichael is going to do? Is he just avoiding signing another contract until he can follow Payton?

I came across something the other day that implied he stepped down as OC, unfortunately I cannot remember where I found that at. If true, that is a very interesting twist. I do believe what you are saying has merit, he could very well be positioning himself to join Payton.

AsylumGuido · 02-11-2022, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Does anyone know what Carmichael is going to do? Is he just avoiding signing another contract until he can follow Payton?

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I came across something the other day that implied he stepped down as OC, unfortunately I cannot remember where I found that at. If true, that is a very interesting twist. I do believe what you are saying has merit, he could very well be positioning himself to join Payton.

They said he's taking a different position with the Saints. They just haven't what that position is as of yet.

BakoSaint · 02-11-2022, 11:42 PM

Isnt the logical thing to speculate that Carmichael has some kind of health or personal issue? It doesnt make sense to turn down a head coaching interview and ask for a demotion because of some grand plan to get the same job he had for 15 years Paytons OC in another city maybe if Payton doesnt end up liking broadcasting or have the current coaches at his ideal landing spots do well and not get fired. If Carmichael takes the interview for head coach maybe he gets hired. Its unpredictable. Allen could have had contract issues or taken another job. Carmichaels interview with the Saints could have led to other interviews and a surprise hire in Houston. Staying as OC and having a head coach interview or two this year, Carmichael could have been a prime candidate for a head coaching gig next year, or parlayed other head coaching interviews into a coordinator gig on a better offense. Turning down interviews and asking for a demotion tells me Carmichaels big ambitions are over and he is winding things down, not that this is all part of the plan to become the next Kellen Moore maybe in a few years.

halloween 65 · 02-12-2022, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Isnt the logical thing to speculate that Carmichael has some kind of health or personal issue? It doesnt make sense to turn down a head coaching interview and ask for a demotion because of some grand plan to get the same job he had for 15 years Paytons OC in another city maybe if Payton doesnt end up liking broadcasting or have the current coaches at his ideal landing spots do well and not get fired. If Carmichael takes the interview for head coach maybe he gets hired. Its unpredictable. Allen could have had contract issues or taken another job. Carmichaels interview with the Saints could have led to other interviews and a surprise hire in Houston. Staying as OC and having a head coach interview or two this year, Carmichael could have been a prime candidate for a head coaching gig next year, or parlayed other head coaching interviews into a coordinator gig on a better offense. Turning down interviews and asking for a demotion tells me Carmichaels big ambitions are over and he is winding things down, not that this is all part of the plan to become the next Kellen Moore maybe in a few years.

Or he might not like the way Allen's way of changing the O ? He!! he might not like Allen period? Somethings up.

AsylumGuido · 02-12-2022, 10:46 AM

He might be being promoted to associate head coach overseeing the offense. Or maybe he is suffering from a rare form of stress induced phobia that's triggered by defensive minded head coaches? Who knows? Saintsfan1976 put it perfectly ... speculation overload.

Time will tell.

AsylumGuido · 02-12-2022, 11:08 AM

Maybe Carmichael gets a similar position as this except Senior Offensive Assistant or such. All they have said is he's staying with the Saints in a position other than OC.

SmashMouth · 02-13-2022, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Maybe Carmichael gets a similar position as this except Senior Offensive Assistant or such. All they have said is he's staying with the Saints in a position other than OC.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...30674636496897

Is he going to Ms Mae's en route for a drink with the little people ?

02-10-2022, 12:27 PM	#1
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02-10-2022, 12:37 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I'm still hoping we find a way to bring Eric Bieniemy in. If it takes money or an elevated title but having him focused on the offense would be tremendous AND mean great things for us at QB.... whoever that may be. The OC position is still available. I'm hoping the same.

02-11-2022, 12:24 PM	#3
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02-11-2022, 01:30 PM	#4
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by The Dude Does anyone know what Carmichael is going to do? Is he just avoiding signing another contract until he can follow Payton? I came across something the other day that implied he stepped down as OC, unfortunately I cannot remember where I found that at. If true, that is a very interesting twist. I do believe what you are saying has merit, he could very well be positioning himself to join Payton.

02-11-2022, 06:25 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by The Dude Does anyone know what Carmichael is going to do? Is he just avoiding signing another contract until he can follow Payton? Originally Posted by MatthewT I came across something the other day that implied he stepped down as OC, unfortunately I cannot remember where I found that at. If true, that is a very interesting twist. I do believe what you are saying has merit, he could very well be positioning himself to join Payton. They said he's taking a different position with the Saints. They just haven't what that position is as of yet.

02-11-2022, 11:42 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Isnt the logical thing to speculate that Carmichael has some kind of health or personal issue? It doesnt make sense to turn down a head coaching interview and ask for a demotion because of some grand plan to get the same job he had for 15 years Paytons OC in another city maybe if Payton doesnt end up liking broadcasting or have the current coaches at his ideal landing spots do well and not get fired. If Carmichael takes the interview for head coach maybe he gets hired. Its unpredictable. Allen could have had contract issues or taken another job. Carmichaels interview with the Saints could have led to other interviews and a surprise hire in Houston. Staying as OC and having a head coach interview or two this year, Carmichael could have been a prime candidate for a head coaching gig next year, or parlayed other head coaching interviews into a coordinator gig on a better offense. Turning down interviews and asking for a demotion tells me Carmichaels big ambitions are over and he is winding things down, not that this is all part of the plan to become the next Kellen Moore maybe in a few years. halloween 65 likes this.
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02-12-2022, 08:09 AM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by BakoSaint Isnt the logical thing to speculate that Carmichael has some kind of health or personal issue? It doesnt make sense to turn down a head coaching interview and ask for a demotion because of some grand plan to get the same job he had for 15 years Paytons OC in another city maybe if Payton doesnt end up liking broadcasting or have the current coaches at his ideal landing spots do well and not get fired. If Carmichael takes the interview for head coach maybe he gets hired. Its unpredictable. Allen could have had contract issues or taken another job. Carmichaels interview with the Saints could have led to other interviews and a surprise hire in Houston. Staying as OC and having a head coach interview or two this year, Carmichael could have been a prime candidate for a head coaching gig next year, or parlayed other head coaching interviews into a coordinator gig on a better offense. Turning down interviews and asking for a demotion tells me Carmichaels big ambitions are over and he is winding things down, not that this is all part of the plan to become the next Kellen Moore maybe in a few years. Or he might not like the way Allen's way of changing the O ? He!! he might not like Allen period? Somethings up.

02-12-2022, 10:46 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC He might be being promoted to associate head coach overseeing the offense. Or maybe he is suffering from a rare form of stress induced phobia that's triggered by defensive minded head coaches? Who knows? Saintsfan1976 put it perfectly ... speculation overload. Time will tell.

02-12-2022, 11:08 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Maybe Carmichael gets a similar position as this except Senior Offensive Assistant or such. All they have said is he's staying with the Saints in a position other than OC. Twitter

02-13-2022, 01:31 PM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,551 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Maybe Carmichael gets a similar position as this except Senior Offensive Assistant or such. All they have said is he's staying with the Saints in a position other than OC. https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...30674636496897 Is he going to Ms Mae's en route for a drink with the little people ? K Major likes this.