Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans

saintfan · 02-11-2022, 06:37 PM

I recognize my targeting of speedo is causing some discomfort. I have apologized for the drama and remain regretful, but it is a glitch in the matrix, and if I didn't believe it was necessary I would surely try something else. The problem is I HAVE tried other things with little speedo and he just can not bring himself to look in his mirror and assess his own behavior. Once enough hell gets raised the speedo issue will resolve and we will all get back to our team and only our team.

The simple truth is speedo doesn't understand how to debate and he doesn't understand how to just let it go. He trolls across threads, then makes formal reports to management trying to get these people in trouble for engaging him in the thing HE started with them and for doing nothing more than having an opinion which doesn't line up with his own view. He is a race baiter. He is absolutely guilty of the theft of other people's work. And yes, beyond all that he's just an annoying presence to enough people here to matter, otherwise I would not have gotten involved. I've watched speedo here for years, and I've watched it get worse over time. And please remember he is not a child - this is a grown damn man.

None of that is up for debate. These are the behaviors of little speedo. What he's trying to do now with his little girlish denial is to divide the board...to get people 'on his side' - to set his supporters (if he has any) against his detractors, so he's quick to offer thanks to anyone who takes issue with the situation - tries to make that at attack on me, and is equally quick to let us all know who he's blocked and to remind us all it's one-sided and that he just can't understand everyone else's childish behavior.

At some point the little fella needs to look at that list of blocked people and ask himself why he has to block so many people...a reasonable person might have done that already and it's one of the many (many) reasons I think he suffers from NPD - while we ALL suffer. As a 'moderator' here I don't think I've ever really moderated anything - years and years of nadda. I actually had to learn how to use a few tools in the last few weeks just to find an alternate way to send this disturbed little man a message he doesn't seem to get.

Nobody's take on little speedo has anything to do with me - it is the result of individual experiences. The consensus is what it is. This is NOT me versus speedo, nor is it anyone else versus speedo. It is the result of a man on the spectrum who never grew up. No more excuses and no quarter.

Hey speedo:

Boston Saint · 02-11-2022, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by jlouhill

Look, I’m not trying to stoke the flames here. I interpreted the posts by major and guido totally different than your take. I interpreted your response as being argumentative. If that wasn’t your intent then I apologize. After re-reading the post I can see your point on what major was saying. I simply didn’t see it that way. I thought your questions were argumentative because I didn’t view it as being about Weis or how good or bad he was. I simply saw it as Weis saying that he did things a certain way and that he sees now that was possibly why he struggled as a head coach. He can take that experience and share it with young coaches so they might not adopt the same philosophy. That’s how I read it. I can see the point of who is he to give head coaching advice given his record but if he knows now one of the areas he failed as a HC then I don’t see the problem with him sharing that with others. That’s just my take on it.

Well thanks for the apology, but for someone not trying to take sides or fan the flames you made a post placing the blame quite firmly on me with:

“ This thread was going fine with a back and forth of thoughts, ideas, and opinions on the topic. Then you had to do exactly what y’all have vilified guido of doing and that’s try to start an argument.”

I clearly said “may be” he missed the point. I never said guido was wrong or attacked him. I was providing that back and forth of thoughts and ideas you claimed was fine when others were doing it; but for some reason it’s not fine with you, guido, fin or rugby when I did it.

Since my point was about Major’s post and he liked my response I feel guido did in fact miss Major’s point and my comment was spot on. How I got dragged into this crap of being labeled as argumentative with guido of all posters is friggin beyond me. It does piss me the hell off though considering things he’s hit me with in the past.

saintfan · 02-11-2022, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

How I got dragged into this crap of being labeled as argumentative with guido of all posters is friggin beyond me. It does piss me the hell off though considering things he’s hit me with in the past.

Answer: Because speedo has on multiple occasions broadcast in the forum that you're one of the people he's had to block. Recently he told everyone that he had unblocked you but but guessed he would have to block you again.

It is an example of how speedo very subtly is trying to divide the board by creating proxy enemies for other people he believes are defending his honor.

NPD. Classic NPD

jlouhill · 02-12-2022, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Well thanks for the apology, but for someone not trying to take sides or fan the flames you made a post placing the blame quite firmly on me with:

“ This thread was going fine with a back and forth of thoughts, ideas, and opinions on the topic. Then you had to do exactly what y’all have vilified guido of doing and that’s try to start an argument.”

I clearly said “may be” he missed the point. I never said guido was wrong or attacked him. I was providing that back and forth of thoughts and ideas you claimed was fine when others were doing it; but for some reason it’s not fine with you, guido, fin or rugby when I did it.

Since my point was about Major’s post and he liked my response I feel guido did in fact miss Major’s point and my comment was spot on. How I got dragged into this crap of being labeled as argumentative with guido of all posters is friggin beyond me. It does piss me the hell off though considering things he’s hit me with in the past.

I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you. I tried to apologize for misinterpreting your post but your tirade after was not necessary. I’m sorry I ruffled your feathers and opened old wounds. Now let’s move on please.

leilung · 02-12-2022, 09:39 AM

Or maybe, just maybe, Major is a Big Boy who can explain his posts himself? Mary Sweet Mother of Jesus, can we just squash this and talk football... PLEASE?

K Major · 02-12-2022, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Or maybe, just maybe, Major is a Big Boy who can explain his posts himself? Mary Sweet Mother of Jesus, can we just squash this and talk football... PLEASE?

You got that right.

No one on this board speaks for Major. No one.

I'm definitely not the issue on this platform. If others fail to see who is the s*** starter is on this site, post after post ... shame on them.

I think our Moderator has done a masterful job in pointing out bad forum etiquette & a lot of folks are tired of it.

Back to football ...

AsylumGuido · 02-12-2022, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by jlouhill

Look, I’m not trying to stoke the flames here. I interpreted the posts by major and guido totally different than your take. I interpreted your response as being argumentative. If that wasn’t your intent then I apologize. After re-reading the post I can see your point on what major was saying. I simply didn’t see it that way. I thought your questions were argumentative because I didn’t view it as being about Weis or how good or bad he was. I simply saw it as Weis saying that he did things a certain way and that he sees now that was possibly why he struggled as a head coach. He can take that experience and share it with young coaches so they might not adopt the same philosophy. That’s how I read it. I can see the point of who is he to give head coaching advice given his record but if he knows now one of the areas he failed as a HC then I don’t see the problem with him sharing that with others. That’s just my take on it.

Yes. That was exactly my intent on posting that anecdote, jlouhill. Given that Allen failed in his first attempt as a head coach and this time he was hiring assistants that he both knew well AND were extremely experienced it fit the scenarios Weis had explained were mistakes that he had made when he was staff building. He added that they were not the only mistakes he made. As simple as that.

AsylumGuido · 02-12-2022, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

You got that right.

No one on this board speaks for Major. No one.

I'm definitely not the issue on this platform. If others fail to see who is the s*** starter is on this site, post after post ... shame on them.

I think our Moderator has done a masterful job in pointing out bad forum etiquette & a lot of folks are tired of it.

Back to football ...

Believe me. That what I'm trying to do, K.

Boston Saint · 02-12-2022, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Believe me. That what I'm trying to do, K.

Really?!! You tried to bring it back to football when you fired this out there?

“Thank you, jlouhill. I was hoping I wasn't the only one noticing. I had put Boston on "ignore" some time back because I was sick of getting into arguments with him over stupid stuff. I took him off my ignore list because, unlike saintfan, he actually posts Saints worthy discussion. But, it's started again.“

When my original post was:

“Major’s point may be that Why does what Weis have to say matter? Weis is
guessing on WHY HE SUCKED. He says he learned from his mistakes, but where is the evidence of that? When was his last successful NFL season ?”

Now, point out to me what was inappropriate or argumentative in the post I originally made. What was out of line that I should not have said in your opinion? What was worthy of putting me on “ignore”? The only person who could have issue with it is Major for me maybe have misrepresenting his point.

If that post was an example of being confrontational or argumentative enough for you to mention it as justification for blocking me guido then you better put your big boy pants on. You damn well know you’ve said worse to me.

Boston Saint · 02-12-2022, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Or maybe, just maybe, Major is a Big Boy who can explain his posts himself? Mary Sweet Mother of Jesus, can we just squash this and talk football... PLEASE?

I ain’t stopping you from doing anything. My original post on this thread was about football and Weis. I got called out for it Maybe, just Maybe you get off my back.

02-11-2022, 06:37 PM	#31
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans I recognize my targeting of speedo is causing some discomfort. I have apologized for the drama and remain regretful, but it is a glitch in the matrix, and if I didn't believe it was necessary I would surely try something else. The problem is I HAVE tried other things with little speedo and he just can not bring himself to look in his mirror and assess his own behavior. Once enough hell gets raised the speedo issue will resolve and we will all get back to our team and only our team. The simple truth is speedo doesn't understand how to debate and he doesn't understand how to just let it go. He trolls across threads, then makes formal reports to management trying to get these people in trouble for engaging him in the thing HE started with them and for doing nothing more than having an opinion which doesn't line up with his own view. He is a race baiter. He is absolutely guilty of the theft of other people's work. And yes, beyond all that he's just an annoying presence to enough people here to matter, otherwise I would not have gotten involved. I've watched speedo here for years, and I've watched it get worse over time. And please remember he is not a child - this is a grown damn man. None of that is up for debate. These are the behaviors of little speedo. What he's trying to do now with his little girlish denial is to divide the board...to get people 'on his side' - to set his supporters (if he has any) against his detractors, so he's quick to offer thanks to anyone who takes issue with the situation - tries to make that at attack on me, and is equally quick to let us all know who he's blocked and to remind us all it's one-sided and that he just can't understand everyone else's childish behavior. At some point the little fella needs to look at that list of blocked people and ask himself why he has to block so many people...a reasonable person might have done that already and it's one of the many (many) reasons I think he suffers from NPD - while we ALL suffer. As a 'moderator' here I don't think I've ever really moderated anything - years and years of nadda. I actually had to learn how to use a few tools in the last few weeks just to find an alternate way to send this disturbed little man a message he doesn't seem to get. Nobody's take on little speedo has anything to do with me - it is the result of individual experiences. The consensus is what it is. This is NOT me versus speedo, nor is it anyone else versus speedo. It is the result of a man on the spectrum who never grew up. No more excuses and no quarter. Hey speedo: K Major likes this.
	C'mon Man...

02-11-2022, 07:27 PM	#32
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,877	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by jlouhill Look, I’m not trying to stoke the flames here. I interpreted the posts by major and guido totally different than your take. I interpreted your response as being argumentative. If that wasn’t your intent then I apologize. After re-reading the post I can see your point on what major was saying. I simply didn’t see it that way. I thought your questions were argumentative because I didn’t view it as being about Weis or how good or bad he was. I simply saw it as Weis saying that he did things a certain way and that he sees now that was possibly why he struggled as a head coach. He can take that experience and share it with young coaches so they might not adopt the same philosophy. That’s how I read it. I can see the point of who is he to give head coaching advice given his record but if he knows now one of the areas he failed as a HC then I don’t see the problem with him sharing that with others. That’s just my take on it. Well thanks for the apology, but for someone not trying to take sides or fan the flames you made a post placing the blame quite firmly on me with: “ This thread was going fine with a back and forth of thoughts, ideas, and opinions on the topic. Then you had to do exactly what y’all have vilified guido of doing and that’s try to start an argument.” I clearly said “may be” he missed the point. I never said guido was wrong or attacked him. I was providing that back and forth of thoughts and ideas you claimed was fine when others were doing it; but for some reason it’s not fine with you, guido, fin or rugby when I did it. Since my point was about Major’s post and he liked my response I feel guido did in fact miss Major’s point and my comment was spot on. How I got dragged into this crap of being labeled as argumentative with guido of all posters is friggin beyond me. It does piss me the hell off though considering things he’s hit me with in the past. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-11-2022, 07:31 PM	#33
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by Boston Saint How I got dragged into this crap of being labeled as argumentative with guido of all posters is friggin beyond me. It does piss me the hell off though considering things he’s hit me with in the past. Answer: Because speedo has on multiple occasions broadcast in the forum that you're one of the people he's had to block. Recently he told everyone that he had unblocked you but but guessed he would have to block you again. It is an example of how speedo very subtly is trying to divide the board by creating proxy enemies for other people he believes are defending his honor. NPD. Classic NPD iceshack149 and Boston Saint like this.

02-12-2022, 12:17 AM	#34
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 676	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by Boston Saint Well thanks for the apology, but for someone not trying to take sides or fan the flames you made a post placing the blame quite firmly on me with: “ This thread was going fine with a back and forth of thoughts, ideas, and opinions on the topic. Then you had to do exactly what y’all have vilified guido of doing and that’s try to start an argument.” I clearly said “may be” he missed the point. I never said guido was wrong or attacked him. I was providing that back and forth of thoughts and ideas you claimed was fine when others were doing it; but for some reason it’s not fine with you, guido, fin or rugby when I did it. Since my point was about Major’s post and he liked my response I feel guido did in fact miss Major’s point and my comment was spot on. How I got dragged into this crap of being labeled as argumentative with guido of all posters is friggin beyond me. It does piss me the hell off though considering things he’s hit me with in the past. I’m not going to get into a pissing match with you. I tried to apologize for misinterpreting your post but your tirade after was not necessary. I’m sorry I ruffled your feathers and opened old wounds. Now let’s move on please. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-12-2022, 09:39 AM	#35
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02-12-2022, 10:14 AM	#36
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,063 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by leilung Or maybe, just maybe, Major is a Big Boy who can explain his posts himself? Mary Sweet Mother of Jesus, can we just squash this and talk football... PLEASE? You got that right. No one on this board speaks for Major. No one. I'm definitely not the issue on this platform. If others fail to see who is the s*** starter is on this site, post after post ... shame on them. I think our Moderator has done a masterful job in pointing out bad forum etiquette & a lot of folks are tired of it. Back to football ... iceshack149, leilung, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

02-12-2022, 10:24 AM	#37
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by jlouhill Look, I’m not trying to stoke the flames here. I interpreted the posts by major and guido totally different than your take. I interpreted your response as being argumentative. If that wasn’t your intent then I apologize. After re-reading the post I can see your point on what major was saying. I simply didn’t see it that way. I thought your questions were argumentative because I didn’t view it as being about Weis or how good or bad he was. I simply saw it as Weis saying that he did things a certain way and that he sees now that was possibly why he struggled as a head coach. He can take that experience and share it with young coaches so they might not adopt the same philosophy. That’s how I read it. I can see the point of who is he to give head coaching advice given his record but if he knows now one of the areas he failed as a HC then I don’t see the problem with him sharing that with others. That’s just my take on it. Yes. That was exactly my intent on posting that anecdote, jlouhill. Given that Allen failed in his first attempt as a head coach and this time he was hiring assistants that he both knew well AND were extremely experienced it fit the scenarios Weis had explained were mistakes that he had made when he was staff building. He added that they were not the only mistakes he made. As simple as that. jlouhill likes this.

02-12-2022, 10:26 AM	#38
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by K Major You got that right. No one on this board speaks for Major. No one. I'm definitely not the issue on this platform. If others fail to see who is the s*** starter is on this site, post after post ... shame on them. I think our Moderator has done a masterful job in pointing out bad forum etiquette & a lot of folks are tired of it. Back to football ... Believe me. That what I'm trying to do, K.

02-12-2022, 10:48 AM	#39
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,877	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Believe me. That what I'm trying to do, K. Really?!! You tried to bring it back to football when you fired this out there? “Thank you, jlouhill. I was hoping I wasn't the only one noticing. I had put Boston on "ignore" some time back because I was sick of getting into arguments with him over stupid stuff. I took him off my ignore list because, unlike saintfan, he actually posts Saints worthy discussion. But, it's started again.“ When my original post was: “Major’s point may be that Why does what Weis have to say matter? Weis is guessing on WHY HE SUCKED. He says he learned from his mistakes, but where is the evidence of that? When was his last successful NFL season ?” Now, point out to me what was inappropriate or argumentative in the post I originally made. What was out of line that I should not have said in your opinion? What was worthy of putting me on “ignore”? The only person who could have issue with it is Major for me maybe have misrepresenting his point. If that post was an example of being confrontational or argumentative enough for you to mention it as justification for blocking me guido then you better put your big boy pants on. You damn well know you’ve said worse to me.
	You think you know, but you don’t know...and you never will! Coach Jim Mora

02-12-2022, 10:51 AM	#40
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,877	Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans Originally Posted by leilung Or maybe, just maybe, Major is a Big Boy who can explain his posts himself? Mary Sweet Mother of Jesus, can we just squash this and talk football... PLEASE? I ain’t stopping you from doing anything. My original post on this thread was about football and Weis. I got called out for it Maybe, just Maybe you get off my back.