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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Have to believe SP is a call or at least a text away. Not that he wants to lean on Sean but I'm sure they discussed plans beyond 2022 when Sean was the presumed HC through ...
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02-09-2022, 08:37 PM | #11 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976
I agree judging from what I see the NFL Coaching Brotherhood seems to be long lasting especially for those who came up the ladder together.
I can always remember Sean being tight with Gruden which stemmed from the days back in Philly. But it's DA's time now and he didn't waste much time in getting his house in order. |
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02-10-2022, 04:25 AM | #12 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by SaintGnome
I was about to make that point but you beat me to it.
I just love the wealth of experience DA is bringing in. We probably gonna have to do a little bargain shopping in FA and rely on the draft to navigate trough a pretty rough cap situation and having coaches that, hopefully, can get the best out of unheralded players will be key. |
02-10-2022, 10:25 AM | #13 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Ex-coach Charlie Weis said a few months ago (yes, on XM NFL Radio) that when hiring staff he learned the hard way that only bringing in people you know, yet with no experience with the positions, can be a disaster. He also said that bringing in people with experience, but not having a working relationship can also be an issue.
Dennis Allen appears to be bringing in people he knows that also have a great deal of experience. Win/win. |
02-10-2022, 10:50 AM | #14 |
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That hiring philosophy sure as hell didn't work for Charlie Weis in Kansas or ND.
He was a terrible Head Coach. |
02-10-2022, 11:45 AM | #15 |
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Exactly! That was his point, K. He said those were the mistakes he made at Kansas and Notre Dame. They were talking about what he would tell a first time head coach and he pointed out what he did wrong in building staff back then. He didn't use the hiring strategy he is now supporting. Hopefully Dennis Allen has learned from some of his own mistakes the first time around, as well, plus seeing what did and didn't work with Payton.
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02-10-2022, 12:01 PM | #16 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Major’s point may be that Why does what Weis have to say matter? Weis is
guessing on WHY HE SUCKED. He says he learned from his mistakes, but where is the evidence of that? When was his last successful NFL season ? |
02-10-2022, 12:22 PM | #17 |
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02-10-2022, 01:10 PM | #18 |
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Re: Doug Marrone Back In New Orleans
Originally Posted by Boston Saint
It doesn't matter who it came from, it just so happens to have come from him. The guest was a coach, as well, I can't remember who, however, and he agreed completely. Weis very well may still have sucked as a head coach, but they both knew his hiring practices were faulty. It is still a truism. Correct? It makes perfect sense, does it not?
Or are you saying it's better to hire coaches who are friends with no experience (what he said he did at Notre Dame)? Are you saying it is better to hire experienced coaches that you have no prior working relationships or understanding of common ways of thinking (what he said he did later at Kansas)? Or are you simply arguing the point just for the sake of arguing? |
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02-10-2022, 01:19 PM | #19 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong but i believe there isn't a cap on the number of coaches/assistants a team can have.
So if you can afford it, why not bring in specialized instructors and analysts? |
02-10-2022, 01:30 PM | #20 |
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I don't believe there is any limit. It's up to the owner's pocketbook. I was reading the other day about some owner in the very recent past that wouldn't allow the GM to bring in a special analyst. It was either Miami or J'ville, I believe.
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