Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame!

Rugby Saint II · 02-11-2022, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Never understood why he didn't play his entire career in NOLA.

His shorter stature helped him, IMHO, as opposing teams had difficulties spotting him before it was too late.

We had a used car salesman mentality before Loomis came on board. As soon as a player showed increased value we would move him or just not pay him when his contract was up. We didn't even have comp picks back then either.

vpheughan · 02-11-2022, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We had a used car salesman mentality before Loomis came on board. As soon as a player showed increased value we would move him or just not pay him when his contract was up. We didn't even have comp picks back then either.

Part of Bill Belichicks "Patriot Way" is trading players when they are near or or in their prime: Ty Law, Mike Vrable, Matt Cassel, Deion Branch, Brandin Cooks, Logan Mankins, Wes Welker, Malcome Butler, Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, Richard Seymour and Jimmy G. to name a few.

jeanpierre · 02-11-2022, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Never understood why he didn't play his entire career in NOLA.

His shorter stature helped him, IMHO, as opposing teams had difficulties spotting him before it was too late.

Before Modern Salary Cap era, you forget how tight Tom Benson was?!?

Forgot the time Rickey Jackson broke Tom Benson's prized hand carved conference table after being promised he'd get paid and then got low-balled?!?

jeanpierre · 02-11-2022, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We had a used car salesman mentality before Loomis came on board. As soon as a player showed increased value we would move him or just not pay him when his contract was up. We didn't even have comp picks back then either.

Nope, not trying to be a jerk to you, Rugs, but I gotta correct, inform that history...

Things were still the same; Sean, after that incredible first season run deep in the playoffs, was the one that convinced Tommy B to spend; Loomis is just a yes man...

MatthewT · 02-11-2022, 04:54 PM

I found this doing a quick search:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mills

Mills became a free agent at the end of the 1994 NFL season. The expansion Carolina Panthers offered him a two-year, $2.8 million deal. While New Orleans matched the offer, Mills was displeased that the Saints did not make an offer until the Panthers forced their hand, and opted to sign with the Panthers.

vpheughan · 02-11-2022, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I found this doing a quick search:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mills

Mills became a free agent at the end of the 1994 NFL season. The expansion Carolina Panthers offered him a two-year, $2.8 million deal. While New Orleans matched the offer, Mills was displeased that the Saints did not make an offer until the Panthers forced their hand, and opted to sign with the Panthers.

DC Dom Capers left the Saints to become the Panthers first coach. I wonder if Mills leaving to follow his DC had anything to do with it?

Rugby Saint II · 02-11-2022, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Part of Bill Belichicks "Patriot Way" is trading players when they are near or or in their prime: Ty Law, Mike Vrable, Matt Cassel, Deion Branch, Brandin Cooks, Logan Mankins, Wes Welker, Malcome Butler, Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, Richard Seymour and Jimmy G. to name a few.

You make an excellent point vpheughan. Personally, I prefer a family run organization to one that is run like a corporation conglomerate. Both of them are very sound business philosophies though.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Nope, not trying to be a jerk to you, Rugs, but I gotta correct, inform that history...

Things were still the same; Sean, after that incredible first season run deep in the playoffs, was the one that convinced Tommy B to spend; Loomis is just a yes man...

Thanks for catching me on the wrong time frame about Tom Benson. We owe even more to Sean Payton than we thought. You are correct my friend.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame! Originally Posted by SmashMouth Never understood why he didn't play his entire career in NOLA. His shorter stature helped him, IMHO, as opposing teams had difficulties spotting him before it was too late. We had a used car salesman mentality before Loomis came on board. As soon as a player showed increased value we would move him or just not pay him when his contract was up. We didn't even have comp picks back then either. AsylumGuido likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,519	Re: Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame! Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We had a used car salesman mentality before Loomis came on board. As soon as a player showed increased value we would move him or just not pay him when his contract was up. We didn't even have comp picks back then either. Part of Bill Belichicks "Patriot Way" is trading players when they are near or or in their prime: Ty Law, Mike Vrable, Matt Cassel, Deion Branch, Brandin Cooks, Logan Mankins, Wes Welker, Malcome Butler, Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, Richard Seymour and Jimmy G. to name a few. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame! Originally Posted by SmashMouth Never understood why he didn't play his entire career in NOLA. His shorter stature helped him, IMHO, as opposing teams had difficulties spotting him before it was too late. Before Modern Salary Cap era, you forget how tight Tom Benson was?!? Forgot the time Rickey Jackson broke Tom Benson's prized hand carved conference table after being promised he'd get paid and then got low-balled?!? Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame! Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We had a used car salesman mentality before Loomis came on board. As soon as a player showed increased value we would move him or just not pay him when his contract was up. We didn't even have comp picks back then either. Nope, not trying to be a jerk to you, Rugs, but I gotta correct, inform that history... Things were still the same; Sean, after that incredible first season run deep in the playoffs, was the one that convinced Tommy B to spend; Loomis is just a yes man... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame! I found this doing a quick search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mills Mills became a free agent at the end of the 1994 NFL season. The expansion Carolina Panthers offered him a two-year, $2.8 million deal. While New Orleans matched the offer, Mills was displeased that the Saints did not make an offer until the Panthers forced their hand, and opted to sign with the Panthers. iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,519	Re: Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame! Originally Posted by MatthewT I found this doing a quick search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mills Mills became a free agent at the end of the 1994 NFL season. The expansion Carolina Panthers offered him a two-year, $2.8 million deal. While New Orleans matched the offer, Mills was displeased that the Saints did not make an offer until the Panthers forced their hand, and opted to sign with the Panthers. DC Dom Capers left the Saints to become the Panthers first coach. I wonder if Mills leaving to follow his DC had anything to do with it?
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Former Saints LBer Sam Mills Elected to the NFL ProFootball Hall of Fame! Originally Posted by vpheughan Part of Bill Belichicks "Patriot Way" is trading players when they are near or or in their prime: Ty Law, Mike Vrable, Matt Cassel, Deion Branch, Brandin Cooks, Logan Mankins, Wes Welker, Malcome Butler, Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, Richard Seymour and Jimmy G. to name a few. You make an excellent point vpheughan. Personally, I prefer a family run organization to one that is run like a corporation conglomerate. Both of them are very sound business philosophies though. Originally Posted by jeanpierre Nope, not trying to be a jerk to you, Rugs, but I gotta correct, inform that history... Things were still the same; Sean, after that incredible first season run deep in the playoffs, was the one that convinced Tommy B to spend; Loomis is just a yes man... Thanks for catching me on the wrong time frame about Tom Benson. We owe even more to Sean Payton than we thought. You are correct my friend. jeanpierre likes this.