Way too early mock draft

saintfan · 02-20-2022, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Bold prediction!! I don’t think it will happen, but I like the boldness!

Rugby Saint II · 02-20-2022, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2022, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it.

How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

saintfan · 02-20-2022, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

Yawn. Who's twitter did you steal this from? I'll check later.

It's different from team to team. Anybody who pays a scintilla of attention to the draft knows this.

But you self-describe as someone who doesn't care about the draft, so, stop wasting everyone's time just so you can chime in.

Just come back in training camp when you'll have a plethora of tweets to steal from...

halloween 65 · 02-20-2022, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

Great point about Ireland. The man who has drafted great secondary draft picks going back to his Miami days and here. Allen being a defensive guy and secondary coach at the roots paired with Irelands ( backfield guru) has led me to think their going after a S in the 1st and not having to pay Williams a kings ransom. Also a Kamara trade could go a long way getting us 2 good rb.'s in the draft, so it's like a 2 for 1 type of deal with cheap contracts to boot. In my eyes it's a win win.

Rugby Saint II · 02-21-2022, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however.

I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously.

If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2022, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency.

Yes, he did. I remember him saying that in an interview. That is to be expected, of course. He better be heavily involved. All HC's should be. But, that doesn't mean he'll be making the final decisions like Payton has done for the past decade and a half. At least I hope not. That really needs to be Ireland's job.

lee909 · 02-23-2022, 09:51 PM

Inc Trades, giving up next years 1sts in both
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 24 (ARI): Malik Willis, QB, Liberty
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
Round 3 Pick 38 (BALT): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis
Round 4 Pick 15: Justyn Ross, WR, Clemson
Round 4 Pick 24 (BALT): Zion Nelson, OT, Miami
Round 5 Pick 18: Zach Charbonnet, RB, UCLA
Round 7 Pick 16: Dareke Young, WR, Lenoir-Rhyne

Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 29 (K.C.): Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina
Round 2 Pick 17: Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota
Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Storm Duck, CB, North Carolina
Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis
Round 4 Pick 15: Isaiah Spiller, RB, Texas A&M
Round 4 Pick 29 (K.C.): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State
Round 5 Pick 18: JoJo Domann, ILB/OLB, Nebraska
Round 7 Pick 16: Charleston Rambo, WR, Miami

K Major · 02-24-2022, 09:56 AM

Jameson Williams in the 1st ?

I still think the injury will push him down to Day 2.

Then again, a team (Chiefs, Bills, Rams) with weapons already in place could make a move.

turbo_dog · 02-25-2022, 04:06 PM

I might be alone here, but I like what I've seen from Carson Strong.

If we are talking about second round prospects, I like Strong or S Lewis Cine from Georgia.

The WR crop is so deep, I've seen mocks and simulators with Metchie and Tolbert available in the third round.

Either would be a solid addiction to our corps.

02-20-2022, 11:57 AM	#31
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Way too early mock draft Originally Posted by Boston Saint Bold prediction!! I don’t think it will happen, but I like the boldness! jnormand, jeanpierre, halloween 65 and 1 others like this.

02-20-2022, 12:01 PM	#32
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Way too early mock draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st. We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it. Rell&Gold likes this.

02-20-2022, 12:23 PM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Way too early mock draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 I think Allen will pull the trigger on a D player in the 1st. Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We need so much help on offense that I just don't see that happening. If anything, I believe DA will choose WR of OT. We've spent plenty of picks on defense recently while ignoring the offense and the offense is suffering from it. How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however. I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously. Crusader and Rell&Gold like this.
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02-20-2022, 01:04 PM	#34
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Way too early mock draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however. I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously. Yawn. Who's twitter did you steal this from? I'll check later. It's different from team to team. Anybody who pays a scintilla of attention to the draft knows this. But you self-describe as someone who doesn't care about the draft, so, stop wasting everyone's time just so you can chime in. Just come back in training camp when you'll have a plethora of tweets to steal from...

02-20-2022, 02:28 PM	#35
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Way too early mock draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however. I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously. Great point about Ireland. The man who has drafted great secondary draft picks going back to his Miami days and here. Allen being a defensive guy and secondary coach at the roots paired with Irelands ( backfield guru) has led me to think their going after a S in the 1st and not having to pay Williams a kings ransom. Also a Kamara trade could go a long way getting us 2 good rb.'s in the draft, so it's like a 2 for 1 type of deal with cheap contracts to boot. In my eyes it's a win win. Crusader and Rell&Gold like this.

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02-21-2022, 12:19 PM	#36
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Way too early mock draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How do we know that Dennis Allen will be the one "pulling the trigger"? While Payton was credited for making the final decisions on draft picks, that is the exception rather than the rule in the NFL, right? The GM usually makes the final decision with input from the scouting department and the coaching staff. We all know Loomis is not a personnel guy, however. I'm thinking, and hoping, with Payton out of the picture the person in charge of College Player Personnel, Jeff Ireland, will be making the final decisions instead. I suspect Allen will be taking a slightly lesser role in that process than Payton held previously. If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency. AsylumGuido likes this.

02-21-2022, 12:23 PM	#37
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: Way too early mock draft Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II If I recall correctly DA said that he wants to be heavily involved binging in new talent in both the draft and free agency. Yes, he did. I remember him saying that in an interview. That is to be expected, of course. He better be heavily involved. All HC's should be. But, that doesn't mean he'll be making the final decisions like Payton has done for the past decade and a half. At least I hope not. That really needs to be Ireland's job. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-23-2022, 09:51 PM	#38
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Way too early mock draft Inc Trades, giving up next years 1sts in both Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama Round 1 Pick 24 (ARI): Malik Willis, QB, Liberty Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State Round 3 Pick 38 (BALT): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis Round 4 Pick 15: Justyn Ross, WR, Clemson Round 4 Pick 24 (BALT): Zion Nelson, OT, Miami Round 5 Pick 18: Zach Charbonnet, RB, UCLA Round 7 Pick 16: Dareke Young, WR, Lenoir-Rhyne Round 1 Pick 18: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama Round 1 Pick 29 (K.C.): Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina Round 2 Pick 17: Daniel Faalele, OT, Minnesota Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Storm Duck, CB, North Carolina Round 3 Pick 35 (COMP): Dylan Parham, OG/C, Memphis Round 4 Pick 15: Isaiah Spiller, RB, Texas A&M Round 4 Pick 29 (K.C.): Jeremy Ruckert, TE, Ohio State Round 5 Pick 18: JoJo Domann, ILB/OLB, Nebraska Round 7 Pick 16: Charleston Rambo, WR, Miami K Major likes this.
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02-24-2022, 09:56 AM	#39
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Way too early mock draft Jameson Williams in the 1st ? I still think the injury will push him down to Day 2. Then again, a team (Chiefs, Bills, Rams) with weapons already in place could make a move.

02-25-2022, 04:06 PM	#40
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Way too early mock draft I might be alone here, but I like what I've seen from Carson Strong. If we are talking about second round prospects, I like Strong or S Lewis Cine from Georgia. The WR crop is so deep, I've seen mocks and simulators with Metchie and Tolbert available in the third round. Either would be a solid addiction to our corps.