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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE ...
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03-09-2022, 10:09 PM | #21 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
As I have told you many times over he could have stopped that whole mess any time he wanted to. Fanboys like you are blinded...or just plain dumb.
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03-10-2022, 02:07 PM | #22 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
The point was he quit on us, doesn't really matter who initiated the mediation.
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03-10-2022, 02:41 PM | #23 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by SaintGnome
Quit on us? That was 2014, right? He was targeted 125 times and caught 85 passes for a 68% clip that season, the highest catch ratio of his career with 100 or more targets. He scored ten TD's. He had 889 yards receiving, a number he only topped once in the remainder of his career (2016 with 923). I guess I missed where he quit on us. We did quit on him, however, when we traded him the following off-season. Seattle wanted him instead of Kenny Stills in deal.
I do know a lot of people were pissed off about the challenge brought about by the NFLPA blaming it on Graham instead, not that it made any difference. Whatever, he's a shell of what he was with the Saints. |
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03-10-2022, 02:47 PM | #24 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
I guess you did just miss it then. Toward the end of the season after the decision came down, I remember seeing game film of him giving up on routes and obviously not engaged.
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03-10-2022, 03:03 PM | #25 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by SaintGnome
What decision are you talking about? The ruling on the franchise designation was on July 2, two months before the season started. I don't remember seeing him giving up on routes. His final three games were pretty decent. He was targeted 26 times and had 17 catches for 194 yards and a TD.
I suppose I could be wrong, but that just doesn't ring a bell for me. Oh, well. Not that it matters anymore. |
03-10-2022, 03:34 PM | #26 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
I made a comment about Jimmy Graham and I think what I wrote confused a couple of people. I said "I would like the Saints to bring back Jimmy Graham if he becomes available, he could be valuable as a 3rd option and as a red zone threat".
What I am talking about is bringing him back as a back up 3rd TE, and mainly use him in the red zone. I would never envision him being anything more than a part time specialty player at this point in his career. I also found a couple of old articles that could shed some light on how he felt about being tagged as a TE, and the 3rd article is how it could have been interpreted that he may have given up on plays. I don't really recall at this point if he made so called "business decisions" in his final year or not, that is a very long time ago. https://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/02/ji...orleans-saints https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eaving-saints/ https://www.canalstreetchronicles.co...end-roundtable |
03-10-2022, 05:08 PM | #27 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by MatthewT
Yeah. That third article was written the Spring prior to his final season with the Saints, way before the NFLPA versus NFL deal ever happened. He had been labeled soft by some for years due to a perceived lack of physicality. He may have been soft, but he was the best in the game for a stretch.
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03-10-2022, 09:30 PM | #28 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Agreed.
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03-10-2022, 10:24 PM | #29 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Question: Did the NFLPA FORCE Jimmy to do a damn thing?
Answer: Nope Findings: You're as stupid now as you were then, maybe even more. Which is hard to imagine but it looks like its possible. |
03-10-2022, 10:25 PM | #30 |
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Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints
Jimmy's biggest problem, like speedo, was his ego. The difference is that today Jimmy openly confesses that and expresses his regrets. Speedo will never do that cause NPD.
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