Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

It’s not like everyone was a Boy Scout back when Brees and Payton were here. People stealing Vicodin, Payton showing up to press conferences coked out of his mind, Sharper, and Bountygate all came under their watch.

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Yeah, but none of that was obvious at the time. If we had a warning...maybe things play differently.

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

I hope the Panthers get Watson and pay a kings ransom. I have no interest unless he comes cheap, which it seems like he won't. He has the hat trick of risk factors, a lot of past injuries, legal troubles that could come back again or be a precendent for future legal transgressions, attitude issues and history of holding out, significant time off that could leave him rusty or prone to injury, will require a lot of salary cap allocation, and will require a lot of draft picks to acquire. He could help come absolutely loaded team win in the short term but we are not that team, we have issues on oline and receiver and with out salary cap. The Panthers are not that team either. In general, teams that are not already loaded and don't have tons of free salary cap to load up further need a young low cost QB to win it all. Watson is a giant risk. He has torn both his ACLs in practice in his past history. Could we win a Superbowl with Watson and Michael Thomas? Perhaps. But the odds of them both being on the field to do it are not great when both present the full house of risk factors. Might be more likely they get in a fight with each other over a stripper where one gets charged with a felony and the other sustains a nagging injury.

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

To your point:

It was November 19, 1966. Michigan State entered the contest 9–0 and ranked No. 2, while Notre Dame entered 8–0 and ranked No. 1. Notre Dame elected not to try for a score on the final series; thus, the game ended in a 10–10 tie.

Bubba Smith, The Baltimore Colts 1967 1st round draft choice and later a star in the Police Academy movie franchise was a senior defensive end for Michigan State.

Prior to his senior year, his hometown American Football League’s Houston Oilers bought Smith an Oldsmobile 98 to get a jump on the bidding war with NFL teams. When Smith showed up on campus with his new wheels, there were rumors a booster paid for it. Coach DuffyDaugherty told Smith to return the car.

Smith was arrested before the big game for having 300 unpaid parking tickets. Amazingly He was out in time to play in the Big Game. Tame by today's standards but things were in 1966.

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Nobody actually thinks players behavior is worse now do they? Here’s some excerpts from a New York Times article from June 10, 1982 with former Saints DE Don Reese spilling the beans:

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/06/10/s...se-in-nfl.html

Player Tells of Wide Drug Use in NFL

… Reese says that he used cocaine with many players, and that he and other Saints indulged in free-basing, in which cocaine is heated and the fumes are inhaled...

… But life with the Saints, he said, ''was a horror show.'' ''Players snorted coke in the locker room before games and at halftime,'' he said, ''and stayed up all hours of the night roaming the streets to get more stuff. I know. I was one of them.''

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Yea in the 70’s and 80’s can’t cocaine use was rampant among NFL players. It was almost acceptable. At the very least the NFL looked the other way.

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

Oh lord… we’re gonna lose Armstead, Marcus Williams and any first round pick for the foreseeable future. Not to mention any dwindling respectability the organization had.