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SmashMouth 03-11-2022 04:13 PM

Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 

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K Major 03-11-2022 04:45 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
We're probably out of the "sweepstakes" but ...

At least make the call ;) .

Euphoria 03-11-2022 05:02 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Look this NFL you aren't going to win without a good QB. How much will it take 3-4 #1's DO IT. Players will come to NO just because of him. They want to see you are doing that you can to win. Make the room, make this happen.

AsylumGuido 03-11-2022 05:22 PM

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He'll likely be suspended the first six games or so. Don't forget that.


saintfan 03-11-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946847)
He'll likely be suspended the first six games or so. Don't forget that.

Maybe you could join him... :rolleyes:

jeanpierre 03-11-2022 06:26 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Saints shouldn't touch him till this is resolved...


AsylumGuido 03-11-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946851)
Saints shouldn't touch him till this is resolved...

https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/stat...08906500411393

Absolutely and this will not be resolved anytime soon.

SaintGnome 03-11-2022 06:36 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
I'd prefer Winston + Bridgewater + Hill
all three have won for us

neugey 03-11-2022 06:42 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Character/legal issues aside - I like Watson's arm, athleticism and ability in the clutch. But I don't like the way he scrambles, he looks like a feline under the influence of way too much catnip. He needs to be coached to scramble with more purpose like Mahomes or Russell Wilson.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/95...9cb8ee50a4.gif

ChrisXVI 03-11-2022 06:42 PM

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Hell no.

AsylumGuido 03-11-2022 06:52 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Seriously, I do not see any female owner touching him. No pun intended.

K Major 03-11-2022 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946858)
Seriously, I do not see any female owner touching him. No pun intended.

https://c.tenor.com/W8mh_jQ3QrYAAAAd...onkey-play.gif

ChrisXVI 03-11-2022 07:08 PM

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I don’t know about the female owner thing… Jameis has a history of sexual assault.

rezburna 03-11-2022 07:08 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
I want Jabo.

saintfan 03-11-2022 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946858)
Seriously, I do not see any female owner touching him. No pun intended.

As our resident racist you should be very careful here - as you likely have other 'tendencies' you want to mask...

SaintGnome 03-11-2022 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 946861)
I want Jabo.

Who, and why?

ChrisXVI 03-11-2022 08:15 PM

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K Major 03-12-2022 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946865)

Due diligence.

Definitely make the call.

neugey 03-12-2022 08:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946858)
Seriously, I do not see any female owner touching him. No pun intended.


So you're saying there won't be a happy ending?

saintsfan1976 03-12-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 946883)
So you're saying there won't be a happy ending?

I think you get the "point"

saintsfan1976 03-12-2022 09:23 AM

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Some great takes all around from you guys.

I can see it being a defining move that's worth the investment.

I can also see us staying pat with Jameis and drafting well again after adding a handful of mid tier FAs.

I'm leaning toward the latter just because that seems to have been the MO all offseason.

FinSaint 03-12-2022 09:28 AM

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I'd be fine with the Saints trading away their next 4-5 1st round picks for Watson if he wanted to come to NOLA, and if they could make it work within the cap.

I've never been a huge fan of his even before all the drama, but he is probably a top 5 QB in the league and could solve the problem with the most important position for the next decade.

Allen failed in part with the Raiders because he didn't have a franchise QB to lean on to, and even if his position is now more secure - I don't think he wants to repeat past failures.

Boston Saint 03-12-2022 10:12 AM

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I was just watching Longhorn Baseball Network and they flashed A headline across the bottom of the screen: “Panthers plan to aggressively pursue Deshaun Watson”. Make of that what you will.

K Major 03-12-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 946893)
I was just watching Longhorn Baseball Network and they flashed A headline across the bottom of the screen: “Panthers plan to aggressively pursue Deshaun Watson”. Make of that what you will.

Desean has made it crystal clear that he wants to play for a contender, a team with a good O line a good defense and Head coach.

Matt Rhule has been terrible (5-11, 5-12) since hired as HC & their o line ranked 31st last season :rolleyes:.

I'll be inclined to believe he'll pass on the Kittens.

My guess is that he will land in Pittsburgh with weapons & a proven organization and HC.

jeanpierre 03-12-2022 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946860)
I don’t know about the female owner thing… Jameis has a history of sexual assault.

Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper...

Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history...

Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies...

And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner...

Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases...

Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints FO - that's disturbing...

jnormand 03-12-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946895)
Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper...

Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history...

Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies...

And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner...

Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases...

Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints - that's disturbing...

I agree completely. It kind of bothers me honestly.

The days of guys like Brees and Colston are long gone. Sad.

I'll say this, Watson has a ton of baggage. And its baggage in the last few years.

I'd really rather just try to find a good QB in the draft and go for him. But that's just me.

FinSaint 03-12-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 946896)
I agree completely. It kind of bothers me honestly.



The days of guys like Brees and Colston are long gone. Sad.



I'll say this, Watson has a ton of baggage. And its baggage in the last few years.



I'd really rather just try to find a good QB in the draft and go for him. But that's just me.

Agreed, but how easy is it to find a true franchise QB through the draft, especially when you are not picking with the first couple of picks of a draft?!

Trading for Watson could be that shortcut for this Saints' team to really compete for the Lombardi instead of years of mediocrity while trying to find the QB to take them to the promised land.

Pretty much last chances for guys like Jordan, Davis and Ingram.

dizzle88 03-12-2022 12:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946895)
Don't forget the unspoken spectre of Darren Sharper...

Not to mention Carl Granderson has recent checkered history...

Also you got a Reserve, Future's Contract Kirk Merrit who's also had problems behaving with the ladies...

And then there's Jameis, who many are willing to forget that an entire university system and alumni destroyed a girl to protect their Heisman winner...

Plus Jameis has had Ronald Darby alibi for him not once, but in two alleged sexual assault cases...

Don't expect these Saints to live like Saints, but criminal sexual transgressions seem to be swept under the rug by the Saints FO - that's disturbing...

Kamara and his crew beat up that guy recently too.

Like it or not, there are not many role models left in the NFL. Its no longer viewed as privilege to be in the NFL, because as long as you can contribute to a Super Bowl, a lot of the personal stuff gets forgotten by many.

As you said, disturbing.

K Major 03-12-2022 01:01 PM

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Drafting a QB in the first rd is essentially playing the lotto.

HUGE gamble.

jeanpierre 03-12-2022 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946901)
Drafting a QB in the first rd is essentially playing the lotto.

HUGE gamble.

Can't win if you don't play. But your point is well-founded.

jeanpierre 03-12-2022 01:41 PM

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FinSaint 03-12-2022 01:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 946900)
Kamara and his crew beat up that guy recently too.



Like it or not, there are not many role models left in the NFL. Its no longer viewed as privilege to be in the NFL, because as long as you can contribute to a Super Bowl, a lot of the personal stuff gets forgotten by many.



As you said, disturbing.

Probably a lot of the same kind of stuff went on behind the scenes back in the day when players actually had private lives.

Rugby Saint II 03-12-2022 01:46 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 946889)
I'd be fine with the Saints trading away their next 4-5 1st round picks for Watson if he wanted to come to NOLA, and if they could make it work within the cap.

I've never been a huge fan of his even before all the drama, but he is probably a top 5 QB in the league and could solve the problem with the most important position for the next decade.

Allen failed in part with the Raiders because he didn't have a franchise QB to lean on to, and even if his position is now more secure - I don't think he wants to repeat past failures.

I'd be fine with Watson. Giving away four or five first round picks isn't what a new coach needs to establish "his team" by being handcuffed in the first round. Dennis Allen needs all of those picks to build his team.

I wasn't a fan when he came here but I like the effort from Winston on and off the field. Winston can lead this team to the playoffs or deeper and we can use all those picks on one or two first round QB's with ammunition left for trades still in our pockets.

saintsfan1976 03-12-2022 02:33 PM

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If he's truly not guilty then I'm all for it.

On the other hand, if he IS guilty then hell no.

Even if not this is something that's sure to drag on and on and on.

saintsfan1976 03-12-2022 02:33 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 946906)
Probably a lot of the same kind of stuff went on behind the scenes back in the day when players actually had private lives.

Probably??

Boston Saint 03-12-2022 03:52 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946894)
Desean has made it crystal clear that he wants to play for a contender, a team with a good O line a good defense and Head coach.

Matt Rhule has been terrible (5-11, 5-12) since hired as HC & their o line ranked 31st last season :rolleyes:.

I'll be inclined to believe he'll pass on the Kittens.

My guess is that he will land in Pittsburgh with weapons & a proven organization and HC.

Good points.

FinSaint 03-12-2022 04:08 PM

Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 946907)
I'd be fine with Watson. Giving away four or five first round picks isn't what a new coach needs to establish "his team" by being handcuffed in the first round. Dennis Allen needs all of those picks to build his team.


I could agree in theory, but Allen inherited a team that is already built for success, and he undoubtedly was heavily involved in that process at least on the defensive side.

So it is, at least partly, already "his team."

You can always find ways to acquire additional 1st round picks, and you can certainly retool a winning team with picks from rounds 2 to 7. Add to that the UDFA and I don't think trading away the 1st round picks would be such a big deal IF adding Watson would produce another SB win.

TheOak 03-12-2022 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 946913)
If he's truly not guilty then I'm all for it.

On the other hand, if he IS guilty then hell no.

Even if not this is something that's sure to drag on and on and on.

A "no bill" from a Grand Jury is not a not guilty, it only speaks to the evidence that the prosecution presented to the Grand Jury. There was no full disclosure or trial.

Desean Watson has some of the best physical therapists and team masseurs that money can pay for but he chose to hit the happy ending private market lol. He may not be found guilty but he is faaarrrrr from innocent lol.

jnormand 03-12-2022 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 946924)
A "no bill" from a Grand Jury is not a not guilty, it only speaks to the evidence that the prosecution presented to the Grand Jury. There was no full disclosure or trial.

Desean Watson has some of the best physical therapists and team masseurs that money can pay for but he chose to hit the happy ending private market lol. He may not be found guilty but he is faaarrrrr from innocent lol.

This!

jeanpierre 03-12-2022 06:51 PM

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