Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints

Rugby Saint II · 03-20-2022, 10:56 AM

Taysom may or not hold up to the damaging tackles. He was an injury waiting to happen in college. Now he's been concussed and has the Lynz franc injury which may not let him see the field anytime soon. He needs to play this season wherever and whenever possible and collect that unrealistic check. He is the true Swiss army knife. Then look at next year to decide whether to come back.

AsylumGuido · 03-20-2022, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Taysom may or not hold up to the damaging tackles. He was an injury waiting to happen in college. Now he's been concussed and has the Lynz franc injury which may not let him see the field anytime soon. He needs to play this season wherever and whenever possible and collect that unrealistic check. He is the true Swiss army knife. Then look at next year to decide whether to come back.

His check isn't that unrealistic. Much of that initial published contract number was tied to QB related incentives such as passing yardage, total TD's passing, passer rating, etcetera, with a certain number of percentage of snaps at QB and number of pass attempts in regular season and playoff game appearances. Otherwise his average salary is pretty much in line with top 18 TE's. ($7-$15 million range)

His cap hit this season is only $5.125 million. Next season it's $13.925 million with restructure range around $7.5 million.

Taysom Hill Contract Details

BakoSaint · 03-20-2022, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

His check isn't that unrealistic. Much of that initial published contract number was tied to QB related incentives such as passing yardage, total TD's passing, passer rating, etcetera, with a certain number of percentage of snaps at QB and number of pass attempts in regular season and playoff game appearances. Otherwise his average salary is pretty much in line with top 18 TE's. ($7-$15 million range)

His cap hit this season is only $5.125 million. Next season it's $13.925 million with restructure range around $7.5 million.

Taysom Hill Contract Details

But his 2023 salary is guaranteed and beyond 2024-2026 we owe him an additional $10 million in prorated bonuses, so if it turns out that a 32 year old converted QB coming off a bad concussion, a lisfranc injury, and a host of other injuries in his past with an extremely physical playing style and no knack for avoiding big hits does not prove so productive in 2022 and we need to move on, then we either have 24 million in dead cap in 2023 or we wait post June 1 and pay the guy $10 million in 2024 when he is not on the roster, or more likely with Loomis we restructure forevery and in the 2026 void year we owe $20 million for a field goal kick holder whose contract voided out, and that money is the difference in having to let one of our starters walk. Hills contract would not be so bad for a proven TE, but its very bad for a 32 year old injury prone unproven TE coming off bad injuries.

AsylumGuido · 03-20-2022, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

But his 2023 salary is guaranteed and beyond 2024-2026 we owe him an additional $10 million in prorated bonuses, so if it turns out that a 32 year old converted QB coming off a bad concussion, a lisfranc injury, and a host of other injuries in his past with an extremely physical playing style and no knack for avoiding big hits does not prove so productive in 2022 and we need to move on, then we either have 24 million in dead cap in 2023 or we wait post June 1 and pay the guy $10 million in 2024 when he is not on the roster, or more likely with Loomis we restructure forevery and in the 2026 void year we owe $20 million for a field goal kick holder whose contract voided out, and that money is the difference in having to let one of our starters walk. Hills contract would not be so bad for a proven TE, but its very bad for a 32 year old injury prone unproven TE coming off bad injuries.

Every team in the league has a number of players in less than ideal situations. Several have been forced to cut still productive players that simply could not fit within their cap because of the inflexibility in their contracts which were first drawn. We've been able to retain all but one significant player (Williams) so far, while replacing that one with a comparable option (Mayes). There are still plenty of options out there, as well, in the free agent market to fill other needs.

saintfan · 03-20-2022, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

His check isn't that unrealistic. Much of that initial published contract number was tied to QB related incentives such as passing yardage, total TD's passing, passer rating, etcetera, with a certain number of percentage of snaps at QB and number of pass attempts in regular season and playoff game appearances. Otherwise his average salary is pretty much in line with top 18 TE's. ($7-$15 million range)

His cap hit this season is only $5.125 million. Next season it's $13.925 million with restructure range around $7.5 million.

Taysom Hill Contract Details

Everybody knows this already mr bookkeeper.

03-20-2022, 10:56 AM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,179	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Taysom may or not hold up to the damaging tackles. He was an injury waiting to happen in college. Now he's been concussed and has the Lynz franc injury which may not let him see the field anytime soon. He needs to play this season wherever and whenever possible and collect that unrealistic check. He is the true Swiss army knife. Then look at next year to decide whether to come back.

03-20-2022, 11:13 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Taysom may or not hold up to the damaging tackles. He was an injury waiting to happen in college. Now he's been concussed and has the Lynz franc injury which may not let him see the field anytime soon. He needs to play this season wherever and whenever possible and collect that unrealistic check. He is the true Swiss army knife. Then look at next year to decide whether to come back. His check isn't that unrealistic. Much of that initial published contract number was tied to QB related incentives such as passing yardage, total TD's passing, passer rating, etcetera, with a certain number of percentage of snaps at QB and number of pass attempts in regular season and playoff game appearances. Otherwise his average salary is pretty much in line with top 18 TE's. ($7-$15 million range) His cap hit this season is only $5.125 million. Next season it's $13.925 million with restructure range around $7.5 million. Taysom Hill Contract Details Crusader likes this.

03-20-2022, 11:31 AM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,408	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido His check isn't that unrealistic. Much of that initial published contract number was tied to QB related incentives such as passing yardage, total TD's passing, passer rating, etcetera, with a certain number of percentage of snaps at QB and number of pass attempts in regular season and playoff game appearances. Otherwise his average salary is pretty much in line with top 18 TE's. ($7-$15 million range) His cap hit this season is only $5.125 million. Next season it's $13.925 million with restructure range around $7.5 million. Taysom Hill Contract Details But his 2023 salary is guaranteed and beyond 2024-2026 we owe him an additional $10 million in prorated bonuses, so if it turns out that a 32 year old converted QB coming off a bad concussion, a lisfranc injury, and a host of other injuries in his past with an extremely physical playing style and no knack for avoiding big hits does not prove so productive in 2022 and we need to move on, then we either have 24 million in dead cap in 2023 or we wait post June 1 and pay the guy $10 million in 2024 when he is not on the roster, or more likely with Loomis we restructure forevery and in the 2026 void year we owe $20 million for a field goal kick holder whose contract voided out, and that money is the difference in having to let one of our starters walk. Hills contract would not be so bad for a proven TE, but its very bad for a 32 year old injury prone unproven TE coming off bad injuries.
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03-20-2022, 12:58 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by BakoSaint But his 2023 salary is guaranteed and beyond 2024-2026 we owe him an additional $10 million in prorated bonuses, so if it turns out that a 32 year old converted QB coming off a bad concussion, a lisfranc injury, and a host of other injuries in his past with an extremely physical playing style and no knack for avoiding big hits does not prove so productive in 2022 and we need to move on, then we either have 24 million in dead cap in 2023 or we wait post June 1 and pay the guy $10 million in 2024 when he is not on the roster, or more likely with Loomis we restructure forevery and in the 2026 void year we owe $20 million for a field goal kick holder whose contract voided out, and that money is the difference in having to let one of our starters walk. Hills contract would not be so bad for a proven TE, but its very bad for a 32 year old injury prone unproven TE coming off bad injuries. Every team in the league has a number of players in less than ideal situations. Several have been forced to cut still productive players that simply could not fit within their cap because of the inflexibility in their contracts which were first drawn. We've been able to retain all but one significant player (Williams) so far, while replacing that one with a comparable option (Mayes). There are still plenty of options out there, as well, in the free agent market to fill other needs.

03-20-2022, 01:01 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reports: 'Taysom Hill experiment at quarterback over' for the Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido His check isn't that unrealistic. Much of that initial published contract number was tied to QB related incentives such as passing yardage, total TD's passing, passer rating, etcetera, with a certain number of percentage of snaps at QB and number of pass attempts in regular season and playoff game appearances. Otherwise his average salary is pretty much in line with top 18 TE's. ($7-$15 million range) His cap hit this season is only $5.125 million. Next season it's $13.925 million with restructure range around $7.5 million. Taysom Hill Contract Details Everybody knows this already mr bookkeeper.

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