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SmashMouth 03-25-2022 03:19 PM

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FinSaint 03-25-2022 03:22 PM

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Why...? Why......??

In the Chiefs' games I've seen - he has been terrible.

ChrisXVI 03-25-2022 03:23 PM

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One of the worst in the league. Laughable.

Boston Saint 03-25-2022 03:24 PM

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Camp body for special teams

GeauxForMore 03-25-2022 03:25 PM

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Sooooooo when are we signing a #2 WR?????????????

neugey 03-25-2022 03:27 PM

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I don't think this is Chiefs safety people here were hoping for!

K Major 03-25-2022 03:55 PM

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Boston said it best … camp body.

Special teams/depth at best, nothing more.

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 04:01 PM

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Had him in a very deep IDP league about five years ago as a bye week filler. I think that may have been his only year starting regularly.

saintfan 03-25-2022 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948715)
Had him in a very deep IDP league about five years ago as a bye week filler. I think that may have been his only year starting regularly.

You cursed his career...

ChrisXVI 03-25-2022 04:10 PM

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Go figure the team with three defensive coordinators isn’t doing anything to improve the offense.

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 948719)
Go figure the team with three defensive coordinators isn’t doing anything to improve the offense.

I don't blame them on waiting for the WR market to adjust. It is way out of whack.

K Major 03-25-2022 04:18 PM

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Would feel a lot better about the depth if PJ Williams was re-signed.

dizzle88 03-25-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948720)
I don't blame them on waiting for the WR market to adjust. It is way out of whack.

It's what this team does best, they wait until all the WR's are gone.

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 04:25 PM

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So.... no championship then?

ChrisXVI 03-25-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948720)
I don't blame them on waiting for the WR market to adjust. It is way out of whack.

When we have negative cap space the money doesn’t matter… Now we sit here with roughly $23 million in cap space and we have to be careful with the contracts we give out.

Lord_Saint83 03-25-2022 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948721)
Would feel a lot better about the depth if PJ Williams was re-signed.



I agree. They aren’t instilling me with a lot of confidence

K Major 03-25-2022 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948720)
I don't blame them on waiting for the WR market to adjust. It is way out of whack.

Who are you waiting for at this stage of the game in Free agency ?

Broke down Julio Jones? TY Hilton ? Old man AJ Green? A nutcase in AB perhaps? Bargain bin (Trequan Smith :rolleyes:) players can’t help you in late January.

Read an article from Jarvis Landry’s camp that the Saints haven’t even called. That’s mind boggling to me.

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 948724)
When we have negative cap space the money doesn’t matter… Now we sit here with roughly $23 million in cap space and we have to be careful with the contracts we give out.

Which of the free agent WR's signed to date do you feel we should have paid what they received? Just curious. Christian Kirk signed at 4 years for $72 million. Chark was mentioned a few times - $10 million one year. Has trouble staying healthy.

Still a lot available ... Jones, Landry, Fuller, Beasley, Hilton, Sanders, Cole, Watkins, Hurns, OBJ, Amendola, Goodwin, Humphries, Sanu, etc.

Lord_Saint83 03-25-2022 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948727)
Which of the free agent WR's signed to date do you feel we should have paid what they received? Just curious. Christian Kirk signed at 4 years for $72 million. Chark was mentioned a few times - $10 million one year. Has trouble staying healthy.

Still a lot available ... Jones, Landry, Fuller, Beasley, Hilton, Sanders, Cole, Watkins, Hurns, OBJ, Amendola, Goodwin, Humphries, Sanu, etc.



Most of those guys on that list are either injury prone or past their prime. Band aid on a bullet hole

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948726)
Who are you waiting for at this stage of the game in Free agency ?

Broke down Julio Jones? TY Hilton ? Old man AJ Green? A nutcase in AB perhaps? Bargain bin (Trequan Smith :rolleyes:) players can’t help you in late January.

Read an article from Jarvis Landry’s camp that the Saints haven’t even called. That’s mind boggling to me.

Does the article mention what his camp is putting out there that he wants?

saintfan 03-25-2022 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948730)
Does the article mention what his camp is putting out there that he wants?

Its a good question. What ARE you waiting on? Somebody to tweet something you can steal? :rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 948729)
Most of those guys on that list are either injury prone or past their prime. Band aid on a bullet hole

What else was there available and what did they end up getting from elsewhere? Did they want to go somewhere without state taxes? Did they want to go near family? There's so many factors that none us know what taking place during the free agent season.

saintfan 03-25-2022 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948732)
What else was there available and what did they end up getting from elsewhere? Did they want to go somewhere without state taxes? Did they want to go near family? There's so many factors that none us know what taking place during the free agent season.

3 questions - how many reposted tweets will it take to answer them?


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Lord_Saint83 03-25-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948732)
What else was there available and what did they end up getting from elsewhere? Did they want to go somewhere without state taxes? Did they want to go near family? There's so many factors that none us know what taking place during the free agent season.


That’s a possibility but this problem didn’t spring up overnight, it was a problem stemming back at least since 2018 and SP nor the FO did anything to fix it. It was just super obvious last year. Most teams are gonna field two no. 1’s this year, while we more than likely with roll out MT and the scrubs. And another thing is we don’t know if MT will be MT. He had the same injury as Jimmy and Jimmy wasn’t the same guy after the ankle injury/surgery

K Major 03-25-2022 05:17 PM

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Saints were willing to mortgage the farm & draft capital on Watson but want to pinch pennies at a position of need?? Gotcha coach.

Bargain bin, great value players take L’s on Sundays at this level.

If the Saints draft for NEED instead of in Free Agency, it’s is a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.

What do I know, I’m just a couch coach though 🤷🏼.

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 948737)
That’s a possibility but this problem didn’t spring up overnight, it was a problem stemming back at least since 2018 and SP nor the FO did anything to fix it. It was just super obvious last year. Most teams are gonna field two no. 1’s this year, while we more than likely with roll out MT and the scrubs. And another thing is we don’t know if MT will be MT. He had the same injury as Jimmy and Jimmy wasn’t the same guy after the ankle injury/surgery

Jimmy wasn't the same guy as Thomas before the injury. ;) But, I'm willing to let the new regime have a chance here. Free agency just started and there will still be options left hanging until after the draft at all positions. I asked this of Major, but what do you think, who have we missed out on that we should have signed so far?

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948740)
Saints were willing to mortgage the farm & draft capital on Watson but want to pinch pennies at a position of need?? Gotcha coach.

Bargain bin, great value players take L’s on Sundays at this level.

If the Saints draft for NEED instead of in Free Agency, it’s is a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.

What do I know, I’m just a couch coach though 🤷🏼.

What FA WR have they missed out on that they should have and could have signed so far?

saintfan 03-25-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948742)
What FA WR have they missed out on that they should have and could have signed so far?

Is that even a serious question? Why don't you tweet us a list of all the FA WRs who've signed elsewhere. You're the "insider"... :rolleyes:

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948740)
Saints were willing to mortgage the farm & draft capital on Watson but want to pinch pennies at a position of need?? Gotcha coach.

Bargain bin, great value players take L’s on Sundays at this level.

If the Saints draft for NEED instead of in Free Agency, it’s is a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.

What do I know, I’m just a couch coach though 🤷🏼.

In all fairness, I think they tried. But we've discovered that NOLA is no longer a destination of preference, for a variety of reasons. It can still be, but it'll be defined by the success they have in the beginning of DA's tenure. We've the cap situation to deal with as a limiting factor for some of those outrageous contracts handed out. Example of Cleveland comes to mind with DW. I mean, who'd want to live in Cleveland ?!?

K Major 03-25-2022 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948727)
Which of the free agent WR's signed to date do you feel we should have paid what they received?
Still a lot available ... Jones, Landry, Fuller, Beasley, Hilton, Sanders, Cole, Watkins, Hurns, OBJ, Amendola, Goodwin, Humphries, Sanu, etc.

You can’t always nickle and dime your way in Free agency at the skill positions. Brees is long gone.

What is your definition of “a lot” available?

Jones is OLD and BRITTLE, Watkins is a walking injury in waiting (see Jones) , Sanu is downgrade from Trequan, OBJ is recovering from yet another torn ACL & won’t be ready until late October , Sanders and Amendola will be 36 at the start of the season :(. Goodwin caught a blistering total of 20 passes in 2021.

95% of the guys you mentioned can’t help us at WR. The only guys I see worth a damn is Landry & slot guy Humphreys but the Saints won’t call. Trequan is a good blocker so he’ll get the nod :rolleyes:.

No more participation trophies. It’s time to compete.

You need a MINIMUM of 3 legit WRs to have a chance in late January.

But again, I’m just a couch coach.

Lord_Saint83 03-25-2022 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948741)
Jimmy wasn't the same guy as Thomas before the injury. ;) But, I'm willing to let the new regime have a chance here. Free agency just started and there will still be options left hanging until after the draft at all positions. I asked this of Major, but what do you think, who have we missed out on that we should have signed so far?



Though he wasn’t a FA we could of possibly traded for Woods though not likely since it’s in the same conference but I would of tried my damnedest. For FA JuJu, Barrios, Z. Jones, Pringle, MVS are some. Did they overpay for some, yes but sometimes you gotta spend money to make money. Oh, I’ll say this to I’m giving them a chance but if they strike out in FA and not draft a receiver in the first two rounds. I’m going to be on the fire Allen and Loomis train. If we didn’t try to get a guy that wasn’t coming here in the first place we could of paid MW not get Dirty Dan

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948746)
You can’t always nickle and dime your way in Free agency at the skill positions. Brees is long gone.

What is your definition of “a lot” available?

Jones is OLD and BRITTLE, Watkins is a walking injury in waiting (see Jones) , Sanu is downgrade from Trequan, OBJ is recovering from yet another torn ACL & won’t be ready until late October , Sanders and Amendola will be 36 at the start of the season :(. Goodwin caught a blistering total of 20 passes in 2021.

95% of the guys you mentioned can’t help us at WR. The only guys I see worth a damn is Landry & slot guy Humphreys but the Saints won’t call. Trequan is a good blocker so he’ll get the nod :rolleyes:.

No more participation trophies. It’s time to compete.

You need a MINIMUM of 3 legit WRs to have a chance in late January.

But again, I’m just a couch coach.

I agree completely that we need that same three WR's. Who could we or should we have already signed?

jeanpierre 03-25-2022 06:02 PM

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Puzzling signing - Is Malcolm Jenkins on the move? retiring?

Has Marcus Maye had some regression in his rehab from Achilles Tendon Sx?

Is J.T. Gray being moved?

Is this leverage against P.J. Williams asking for too much coin?

Is he being moved to a rover LBer?

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 948747)
Though he wasn’t a FA we could of possibly traded for Woods though not likely since it’s in the same conference but I would of tried my damnedest. For FA JuJu, Barrios, Z. Jones, Pringle, MVS are some. Did they overpay for some, yes but sometimes you gotta spend money to make money. Oh, I’ll say this to I’m giving them a chance but if they strike out in FA and not draft a receiver in the first two rounds. I’m going to be on the fire Allen and Loomis train. If we didn’t try to get a guy that wasn’t coming here in the first place we could of paid MW not get Dirty Dan

Woods is coming off a season ending injury. That would match our free agent M.O.

K Major 03-25-2022 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 948749)
Puzzling signing - Is Malcolm Jenkins on the move? retiring?

I think he will retire before training camp starts.

Lord_Saint83 03-25-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948750)
Woods is coming off a season ending injury. That would match our free agent M.O.




Well what’s one more? At least he’d be back before mid season and the guy is good

SaintGnome 03-25-2022 06:45 PM

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Wow, lotta panicking for MARCH (!!). Lotta time for moves. Can we give DA a minute?

FinSaint 03-25-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 948732)
What else was there available and what did they end up getting from elsewhere? Did they want to go somewhere without state taxes? Did they want to go near family? There's so many factors that none us know what taking place during the free agent season.

To the point about taxes - is the NFL the same as the NHL when it comes to players paying taxes?

In the NHL players pay taxes based on in which state they play games in, which means they pay a fixed tax rate for all of their home games, and a variable rate for all of their away games.

It used to be a hot topic among the Canadien teams that they were unfairly competing with teams from states like Florida. Then someone did the calculations, and the earnings difference was actually very small between signing with a high tax state team and a low tax state team.

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 948757)
Wow, lotta panicking for MARCH (!!). Lotta time for moves. Can we give DA a minute?

Amen. :D

AsylumGuido 03-25-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 948759)
To the point about taxes - is the NFL the same as the NHL when it comes to players paying taxes?

In the NHL players pay taxes based on in which state they play games in, which means they pay a fixed tax rate for all of their home games, and a variable rate for all of their away games.

It used to be a hot topic among the Canadien teams that they were unfairly competing with teams from states like Florida. Then someone did the calculations, and the earnings difference was actually very small between signing with a high tax state team and a low tax state team.

This is true. But it's something that the the players see as real. They talk about it as a factor all the time.


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