Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade

turbo_dog · 04-04-2022, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Right now it really doesn't look like a good trade imo. But the Saints love to mortgage their future.

Maybe they have a plan, but to me it looks a little like they're throwing picks away here. I guess if they go deep into the playoffs and that first next year ends up being at the back end of the 1st round, it would make more sense. But I just don't think the Saints are going to do better than an 8 to 10 win season.

It's hard to see a better season than that. Too many unknowns

1. New head coach
2. Will MT come back as much of a force as he used to be?
3. Will Winston be the QB?
4. Will Kamara even play after the Vegas trouble?
5. What's the O line look like now?

AsylumGuido · 04-04-2022, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

It's hard to see a better season than that. Too many unknowns

1. New head coach
2. Will MT come back as much of a force as he used to be?
3. Will Winston be the QB?
4. Will Kamara even play after the Vegas trouble?
5. What's the O line look like now?

1. Same coach, different position
2. MT can be just as dominant
3. Winston will be the QB
4. With the speed of the legal system is may be after the season before anything is known
5. It will look better than last year with only one starter playing the whole season

But, then again, I look at the cup being full.

turbo_dog · 04-04-2022, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

1. Same coach, different position
2. MT can be just as dominant
3. Winston will be the QB
4. With the speed of the legal system is may be after the season before anything is known
5. It will look better than last year with only one starter playing the whole season

But, then again, I look at the cup being full.

Your answer to number one really shows you don't deal with reality. Your answer to number two is possibly right, but the way you say it with such certainty is perhaps one reason people call you narcissistic. You have no idea if MT will be the same player he was two seasons ago.

AsylumGuido · 04-05-2022, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Your answer to number one really shows you don't deal with reality. Your answer to number two is possibly right, but the way you say it with such certainty is perhaps one reason people call you narcissistic. You have no idea if MT will be the same player he was two seasons ago.

It is an optimistic point of view versus pessimistic point of view. I would be concerned if his game was not heavily dependent upon preparation, knowledge, and the ability to catch anything thrown in his vicinity. He was still making plays on that bad ankle two years ago. I see no reason for him not to be just as effective as he was before the injury.

As for the new coach, Allen is still in direct charge of the defense and the offensive staff remains mostly intact with the addition of one of the best offensive line coaches in the game in Doug Marrone. The notable absence is Payton whom several around here felt was holding the team back.

SmashMouth · 04-04-2022, 05:28 PM

So we definitely getting a WR in the 1st round... and an OT.

Sweet !

Here's my new mock draft with the updated pics. (2022 PFF Draft Simulator)

ChrisXVI · 04-04-2022, 05:39 PM

And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade.

K Major · 04-04-2022, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade.

See post #9.

I for one, love the aggressive approach. Change things up.

Boston Saint · 04-04-2022, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade.

In fairness, if they don’t draft a WR or LT and if Winston sucks running the O then a first round pick next year isn’t going to be enough to fix the problems anyway.

WW_Who_Dat · 04-04-2022, 05:58 PM

OMG so much negativity … probably means they will nail it if history is any indication of past performance. 2 more potential starters on 5 year contracts … Maybe looking and mucho cap space for free agent signing. I know I know Glass Half Full to the max.

AsylumGuido · 04-04-2022, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

OMG so much negativity … probably means they will nail it if history is any indication of past performance. 2 more potential starters on 5 year contracts … Maybe looking and mucho cap space for free agent signing. I know I know Glass Half Full to the max.

Yup. I have never understood expecting the worst. I'm loving this. We are in a win now mode. We can win it all with a few more reachable pieces.

04-04-2022, 05:25 PM	#1
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,635	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade Originally Posted by jnormand Right now it really doesn't look like a good trade imo. But the Saints love to mortgage their future. Maybe they have a plan, but to me it looks a little like they're throwing picks away here. I guess if they go deep into the playoffs and that first next year ends up being at the back end of the 1st round, it would make more sense. But I just don't think the Saints are going to do better than an 8 to 10 win season. It's hard to see a better season than that. Too many unknowns 1. New head coach 2. Will MT come back as much of a force as he used to be? 3. Will Winston be the QB? 4. Will Kamara even play after the Vegas trouble? 5. What's the O line look like now? jnormand likes this.

04-04-2022, 06:06 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade Originally Posted by turbo_dog It's hard to see a better season than that. Too many unknowns 1. New head coach 2. Will MT come back as much of a force as he used to be? 3. Will Winston be the QB? 4. Will Kamara even play after the Vegas trouble? 5. What's the O line look like now? 1. Same coach, different position 2. MT can be just as dominant 3. Winston will be the QB 4. With the speed of the legal system is may be after the season before anything is known 5. It will look better than last year with only one starter playing the whole season But, then again, I look at the cup being full.

04-04-2022, 10:20 PM	#3
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,635	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade Originally Posted by AsylumGuido 1. Same coach, different position 2. MT can be just as dominant 3. Winston will be the QB 4. With the speed of the legal system is may be after the season before anything is known 5. It will look better than last year with only one starter playing the whole season But, then again, I look at the cup being full. Your answer to number one really shows you don't deal with reality. Your answer to number two is possibly right, but the way you say it with such certainty is perhaps one reason people call you narcissistic. You have no idea if MT will be the same player he was two seasons ago.

04-05-2022, 07:49 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade Originally Posted by turbo_dog Your answer to number one really shows you don't deal with reality. Your answer to number two is possibly right, but the way you say it with such certainty is perhaps one reason people call you narcissistic. You have no idea if MT will be the same player he was two seasons ago. It is an optimistic point of view versus pessimistic point of view. I would be concerned if his game was not heavily dependent upon preparation, knowledge, and the ability to catch anything thrown in his vicinity. He was still making plays on that bad ankle two years ago. I see no reason for him not to be just as effective as he was before the injury. As for the new coach, Allen is still in direct charge of the defense and the offensive staff remains mostly intact with the addition of one of the best offensive line coaches in the game in Doug Marrone. The notable absence is Payton whom several around here felt was holding the team back.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

04-04-2022, 05:28 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade So we definitely getting a WR in the 1st round... and an OT. Sweet ! Here's my new mock draft with the updated pics. (2022 PFF Draft Simulator)

04-04-2022, 05:39 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade. jeanpierre and RefsRobbedUs like this.

04-04-2022, 05:56 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade Originally Posted by ChrisXVI And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade. See post #9. I for one, love the aggressive approach. Change things up. AsylumGuido and shawnkytonk like this.

04-04-2022, 11:40 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade Originally Posted by ChrisXVI And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade. In fairness, if they don’t draft a WR or LT and if Winston sucks running the O then a first round pick next year isn’t going to be enough to fix the problems anyway. Rugby Saint II, WW_Who_Dat and Rell&Gold like this.

04-04-2022, 05:58 PM	#9
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,275 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade OMG so much negativity … probably means they will nail it if history is any indication of past performance. 2 more potential starters on 5 year contracts … Maybe looking and mucho cap space for free agent signing. I know I know Glass Half Full to the max. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and shawnkytonk like this.

04-04-2022, 06:09 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat OMG so much negativity … probably means they will nail it if history is any indication of past performance. 2 more potential starters on 5 year contracts … Maybe looking and mucho cap space for free agent signing. I know I know Glass Half Full to the max. Yup. I have never understood expecting the worst. I'm loving this. We are in a win now mode. We can win it all with a few more reachable pieces. shawnkytonk likes this.