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papz 04-04-2022 03:31 PM

Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
The Philadelphia Eagles have agreed to trade two of their 2022 first-round picks (No. 16 and No. 19) to the Saints for New Orleans' 2022 first-round pick (No. 18) and a 2023 first-round pick.

The Eagles will also receive a 2024 second-round draft pick, plus a 2022 third-round pick (No. 101) and a 2022 seventh-round pick (No. 237) while sending a 2022 sixth-round pick (No. 194) to the Saints.

After the trade, the Eagles will still pick twice in the 2022 first round as they also own the No. 15 pick.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...lti-pick-trade


Figured this needs its own thread.

shawnkytonk 04-04-2022 03:32 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
It's definitely apparent we aren't in rebuild mode.

hitta 04-04-2022 03:32 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
I'm starting to think we may have a QB in mind. I wonder who.

shawnkytonk 04-04-2022 03:34 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 949522)
I'm starting to think we may have a QB in mind. I wonder who.

That just doesn't make sense. None of these guys are franchise material honestly. We gave up our 1st next year that is QB rich. We're looking for legitimate starters here. Has to be WR and T. I'd be fine with 2 of the top 4 WRs honestly.

stickman 04-04-2022 03:36 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 949523)
That just doesn't make sense. None of these guys are franchise material honestly. We gave up our 1st next year that is QB rich. We're looking for legitimate starters here. Has to be WR and T. I'd be fine with 2 of the top 4 WRs honestly.

Agreed. None of the QBs in this draft make me say "Wow!". Like you I'm hoping it's OL and WR.

hitta 04-04-2022 03:37 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Sam Howell is the only guy that I think will be successful and maybe Pickett. I don't care for Malik Willis at all.

neugey 04-04-2022 03:40 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Hmmm ... hopefully this works out. Maybe we will see good players fall and hit big on both pick 16 and 19. We'll have to keep an eye on the teams that draft between us and take advantage of opportunities.;

shawnkytonk 04-04-2022 03:40 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 949525)
Sam Howell is the only guy that I think will be successful and maybe Pickett. I don't care for Malik Willis at all.

I honestly don't like any of them. Willis is the only one that excites me, but he's a project that probably needs to sit 2+ years. Nothing in Trey Lance showed me he's ready to start this next season.

papz 04-04-2022 03:43 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
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hitta 04-04-2022 03:44 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 949527)
I honestly don't like any of them. Willis is the only one that excites me, but he's a project that probably needs to sit 2+ years. Nothing in Trey Lance showed me he's ready to start this next season.

Trust me, Sam Howell has something special about him... I'll pull this thread back up when he shows it. Still, I don't see us picking him with either of these picks. Maybe we aren't finished doing what we are doing. Might be able to take these picks and convert them into several picks.

papz 04-04-2022 03:48 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
I'm happy we have two first in an incredibly deep first round. We should be able to get two excellent prospects regardless of which position we decide to use them on.

I'll wait next year to ***** about our missing draft picks. For now, WE HAVE TWO FIRST ROUNDERS!!! :broccoli:

shawnkytonk 04-04-2022 03:52 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 949530)
I'm happy we have two first in an incredibly deep first round. We should be able to get two excellent prospects regardless of which position we decide to use them on.

I'll wait next year to ***** about our missing draft picks. For now, WE HAVE TWO FIRST ROUNDERS!!! :broccoli:

And very close picks. Definitely ammunition to get more.

hitta 04-04-2022 03:52 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 949530)
I'm happy we have two first in an incredibly deep first round. We should be able to get two excellent prospects regardless of which position we decide to use them on.

I'll wait next year to ***** about our missing draft picks. For now, WE HAVE TWO FIRST ROUNDERS!!! :broccoli:

That's the thing, we may be able to get 3 first rounders this year if we do it right, by moving back on these picks and moving up the 2nd round pick. 3 late first rounders in this draft would be great because of the depth. This is a great year to have a lot of picks in that 20-40 range and could really add some talent to this team.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2022 03:59 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 949525)
Sam Howell is the only guy that I think will be successful and maybe Pickett. I don't care for Malik Willis at all.

Howell looks like Taysom Hill 2.0 to me. I don't see any of this year's QB being as good as Winston.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2022 04:00 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 949530)
I'm happy we have two first in an incredibly deep first round. We should be able to get two excellent prospects regardless of which position we decide to use them on.

I'll wait next year to ***** about our missing draft picks. For now, WE HAVE TWO FIRST ROUNDERS!!! :broccoli:

We only gave up #32 plus a little more.

hitta 04-04-2022 04:00 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 949533)
Howell looks like Taysom Hill 2.0 to me. I don't see any of this year's QB being as good as Winston.

Much better natural passer IMO.

K Major 04-04-2022 04:01 PM

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AsylumGuido 04-04-2022 04:01 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 949532)
That's the thing, we may be able to get 3 first rounders this year if we do it right, by moving back on these picks and moving up the 2nd round pick. 3 late first rounders in this draft would be great because of the depth. This is a great year to have a lot of picks in that 20-40 range and could really add some talent to this team.

You're talking about Loomis. He has NEVER traded back once. Sixteen trades UP and zero trades down.

Lord_Saint83 04-04-2022 04:02 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Like what most say it’s prolly a top receiver and a really good tackle. Must be two guys they really like in the first

hitta 04-04-2022 04:06 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 949537)
You're talking about Loomis. He has NEVER traded back once. Sixteen trades UP and zero trades down.

There's always a time for firsts.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2022 04:09 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 949535)
Much better natural passer IMO.

He pulls it down and runs it WAY to often for my taste and then tries to bowl over the defender. He carried it 183 times this past season. I could swear I was watching Taysom whenever I saw him play. He even wore Taysom's #7. LOL!

hitta 04-04-2022 04:13 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 949537)
You're talking about Loomis. He has NEVER traded back once. Sixteen trades UP and zero trades down.

Also, It wouldn't just be trading back, it'd be trading up too. It'd be going both ways and meeting in the middle.

shawnkytonk 04-04-2022 04:23 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
I find it VERY amusing that I'm seeing Eagles fans talking about our pick next year being top 10 and possibly top 5. They aren't the brightest fans around.

ChrisXVI 04-04-2022 04:36 PM

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turbo_dog 04-04-2022 04:43 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
This is a very strange trade when you look at it. Saints move up two spots, passing the Chargers. Is there someone they think the Chargers would take that they want? And then they move back one spot to have another first rounder.

I think this draft has a lot of value with the second round. Any of you who have done the draft simulators can see the plethora of talent in the second round. I'd rather have three second rounders than two firsts.

K Major 04-04-2022 05:13 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
The last time (2017) we had 2 picks in the 1st round we landed Ramz and Lattimore. Actually, that whole class was very, very good.

2022 could be another stellar draft for the Saints.

Can't wait.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2022 05:15 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 949548)
The last time (2017) we had 2 picks in the 1st round we landed Ramz and Lattimore. Actually, that whole class was very, very good.

2022 could be another stellar draft for the Saints.

Can't wait.

Just avoid the QB's like the plague.

jnormand 04-04-2022 05:19 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Right now it really doesn't look like a good trade imo. But the Saints love to mortgage their future.

Maybe they have a plan, but to me it looks a little like they're throwing picks away here. I guess if they go deep into the playoffs and that first next year ends up being at the back end of the 1st round, it would make more sense. But I just don't think the Saints are going to do better than an 8 to 10 win season.

I just don't think we have our franchise QB on the roster right now. And we just gave up our 1st round pick next year when the draft will reportedly have a better QB class.

turbo_dog 04-04-2022 05:25 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 949550)
Right now it really doesn't look like a good trade imo. But the Saints love to mortgage their future.

Maybe they have a plan, but to me it looks a little like they're throwing picks away here. I guess if they go deep into the playoffs and that first next year ends up being at the back end of the 1st round, it would make more sense. But I just don't think the Saints are going to do better than an 8 to 10 win season.

It's hard to see a better season than that. Too many unknowns

1. New head coach
2. Will MT come back as much of a force as he used to be?
3. Will Winston be the QB?
4. Will Kamara even play after the Vegas trouble?
5. What's the O line look like now?

SmashMouth 04-04-2022 05:28 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
So we definitely getting a WR in the 1st round... and an OT.

Sweet !

Here's my new mock draft with the updated pics.

ChrisXVI 04-04-2022 05:39 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade.

K Major 04-04-2022 05:56 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 949555)
And what if we don’t draft LT and WR? What if Jameis sucks with Pete Carmichael running the offense? Then we are stuck with no first rounder next year. There’s a whole lot of assumptions involved to justify this trade.

See post #9.

I for one, love the aggressive approach. Change things up.

WW_Who_Dat 04-04-2022 05:58 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
OMG so much negativity … probably means they will nail it if history is any indication of past performance. 2 more potential starters on 5 year contracts … Maybe looking and mucho cap space for free agent signing. I know I know Glass Half Full to the max.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2022 06:06 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 949551)
It's hard to see a better season than that. Too many unknowns

1. New head coach
2. Will MT come back as much of a force as he used to be?
3. Will Winston be the QB?
4. Will Kamara even play after the Vegas trouble?
5. What's the O line look like now?

1. Same coach, different position
2. MT can be just as dominant
3. Winston will be the QB
4. With the speed of the legal system is may be after the season before anything is known
5. It will look better than last year with only one starter playing the whole season

But, then again, I look at the cup being full.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2022 06:09 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 949559)
OMG so much negativity … probably means they will nail it if history is any indication of past performance. 2 more potential starters on 5 year contracts … Maybe looking and mucho cap space for free agent signing. I know I know Glass Half Full to the max.

Yup. I have never understood expecting the worst. I'm loving this. We are in a win now mode. We can win it all with a few more reachable pieces.

SaintGnome 04-04-2022 06:10 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Anybody think we may have gotten two first rounders to trade for a much higher 1st? Is there a THAT guy in the top 5? I don't follow enough college FB.

shawnkytonk 04-04-2022 06:39 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 949562)
Anybody think we may have gotten two first rounders to trade for a much higher 1st? Is there a THAT guy in the top 5? I don't follow enough college FB.

I wouldn't think so. Too many holes to do that and not have a 1st next year.

SaintGnome 04-04-2022 06:45 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 949563)
I wouldn't think so. Too many holes to do that and not have a 1st next year.

Honestly, I hope not myself, I agree I'd rather keep the picks and use them well. Just wondering.

voodooido 04-04-2022 07:20 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 949526)
Hmmm ... hopefully this works out. Maybe we will see good players fall and hit big on both pick 16 and 19. We'll have to keep an eye on the teams that draft between us and take advantage of opportunities.;

Howell will be there in the 2nd. Western Kentucky qb which broke a ton of records will be there in the 4th. I really think this is a tackle and wr move

BakoSaint 04-04-2022 07:41 PM

Re: Philadelphia Eagles, New Orleans Saints shake up first round of 2022 NFL draft with multi-pick trade
 
I want Loomis fired. This is the last straw. We are due for a likely down year and now Philly is robbing us of a likely top 10 pick, perhaps #1 overall in 2023. Allens best year as a head coach was 4-12 and now we need him to go 9-8 to half way break even on this trade. We can all argue all day but lets wait and look back on this trade in 10 months when we see the position of that pick. Fire Mickey Loomis!


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