The reason we loss

LordOfEntropy · 09-25-2005, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

The last two weeks we started down 7-0 the the first minute of the game

You noticed that too, eh?

It's an inexcusable problem. It extends back for years, not just this year. We simply - must - suck the opening quarter of most games. One play into the game, down 7. Three minutes into the game, down 10 or 14.

I was saying the same thing to my girlfriend during the game this week.. Why don't we kick at the opening, or just let the ball bounce? It'd be better than recent history.

The consistency of it is the killer. That's a coaching problem.

Rsanders24 · 09-25-2005, 05:58 PM

THe point is still that HE didn't lead HIS team to a victory either!

Euphoria · 09-25-2005, 06:19 PM

its the O-line they suck

frankeefrank · 09-25-2005, 07:08 PM

I kind of see the loss as the whole team isn't very good.
Aaron Brooks,
Aaron Stecker
Fred McAfee
EVERYONE

lynwood · 09-25-2005, 07:23 PM

This team will not get to the Superbowl with AB at the quaterback period. We won't get back to the playoffs with him unless it's by default having an 8-8 season. His passes are too hard, too low, not hitting the receivers in stride. Having catch up stats didn't impress me last year and so far it doesn't this year. AB had one of his fluke games already against Carolina. He's due one more.

GoldenTomb · 09-25-2005, 07:23 PM

It's no wonder...the coaching sucks. Why is this such a surprise all of a sudden. Thats why you blow it up and just start over. Offense, defense the whole shabang.

And yes that includes dumping Brooks.

FireVenturi · 09-25-2005, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Delhomme threw the pass but it was the YAC that made the difference on that 53 yard TD that put them back in the game.

i agree, i think that jake as well as AB both stink. the difference is defense and that Jake's WR's always make circus catches. AB's Wr's do...sometimes!

lynwood · 09-25-2005, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by GoldenTomb

It's no wonder...the coaching sucks. Why is this such a surprise all of a sudden. Thats why you blow it up and just start over. Offense, defense the whole shabang.

And yes that includes dumping Brooks.

I don't want to sit through two to three years of a rebuilding stage. We do have some pieces in place to carry us into the playoffs. What we lack is Leadership and consistancy from AB. On defense a true leader on Defense to include a Bloodlusting Linbacker. I would like to seee them sit AB for a game just to show that he can get benched. Also would like to see Smith or stecker carry the ball more as well. Duece is okay through the tackles but we need to mix it up with some outside sweeps. That can be blamed on playcalling.

GoldenTomb · 09-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Well the fact of the matter is this....we need to get rid of the coach because that is the only way that we will draft a LB in the first round, get an impact CB and DT in free agency, teach our o line to block and get rid of AB. However getting rid of Has would mean that we would be rebuilding. Gotta start it sometime. We gave him 5 years and he's yielded no results. You have to cut your losses somewhere. This problem is much bigger than a few players.

GoldenTomb · 09-25-2005, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Leadership comes from your Coaches, AB is at fault for somethings. But yet again you and others include him as either 1 or 2 of the problems when in truth the things he does that are f*k-ups might be around problem 4-5.

2000-2005 combined add them together this teams defense hasn't scored even 10 scoring TD'S. The Bear have more right now then this team has gotten combined over the past 5 years!

These are the things you people keep missing! Scoring defense, turnovers that's winning football. NFL Teams feed off of their defense!!!!!! Never, never have you heard a Coach say that his team feeds off his offense.it's always the latter. Defense gives up a TD on every opening play?????? turnovers mind you are a part of football, every team does them and they are supposed to fight through them.

Uhhh i think everyone knows our D sucks. Most of them need to go....but Brooks does too, sorry.

09-25-2005, 05:55 PM	#11
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Originally Posted by Rsanders24 The last two weeks we started down 7-0 the the first minute of the game You noticed that too, eh? It's an inexcusable problem. It extends back for years, not just this year. We simply - must - suck the opening quarter of most games. One play into the game, down 7. Three minutes into the game, down 10 or 14. I was saying the same thing to my girlfriend during the game this week.. Why don't we kick at the opening, or just let the ball bounce? It'd be better than recent history. The consistency of it is the killer. That's a coaching problem.

09-25-2005, 07:08 PM	#14
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	I kind of see the loss as the whole team isn't very good. Aaron Brooks, Aaron Stecker Fred McAfee EVERYONE
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09-25-2005, 07:23 PM	#16
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	It's no wonder...the coaching sucks. Why is this such a surprise all of a sudden. Thats why you blow it up and just start over. Offense, defense the whole shabang. And yes that includes dumping Brooks.
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09-25-2005, 07:32 PM	#17
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Delhomme threw the pass but it was the YAC that made the difference on that 53 yard TD that put them back in the game. i agree, i think that jake as well as AB both stink. the difference is defense and that Jake's WR's always make circus catches. AB's Wr's do...sometimes!

09-25-2005, 07:33 PM	#18
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Originally Posted by GoldenTomb It's no wonder...the coaching sucks. Why is this such a surprise all of a sudden. Thats why you blow it up and just start over. Offense, defense the whole shabang. And yes that includes dumping Brooks. I don't want to sit through two to three years of a rebuilding stage. We do have some pieces in place to carry us into the playoffs. What we lack is Leadership and consistancy from AB. On defense a true leader on Defense to include a Bloodlusting Linbacker. I would like to seee them sit AB for a game just to show that he can get benched. Also would like to see Smith or stecker carry the ball more as well. Duece is okay through the tackles but we need to mix it up with some outside sweeps. That can be blamed on playcalling.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	THe point is still that HE didn't lead HIS team to a victory either!

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GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Well the fact of the matter is this....we need to get rid of the coach because that is the only way that we will draft a LB in the first round, get an impact CB and DT in free agency, teach our o line to block and get rid of AB. However getting rid of Has would mean that we would be rebuilding. Gotta start it sometime. We gave him 5 years and he's yielded no results. You have to cut your losses somewhere. This problem is much bigger than a few players.
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09-25-2005, 07:48 PM	#20
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Leadership comes from your Coaches, AB is at fault for somethings. But yet again you and others include him as either 1 or 2 of the problems when in truth the things he does that are f*k-ups might be around problem 4-5. 2000-2005 combined add them together this teams defense hasn't scored even 10 scoring TD'S. The Bear have more right now then this team has gotten combined over the past 5 years! These are the things you people keep missing! Scoring defense, turnovers that's winning football. NFL Teams feed off of their defense!!!!!! Never, never have you heard a Coach say that his team feeds off his offense.it's always the latter. Defense gives up a TD on every opening play?????? turnovers mind you are a part of football, every team does them and they are supposed to fight through them. Uhhh i think everyone knows our D sucks. Most of them need to go....but Brooks does too, sorry.
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