The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006

AsylumGuido · 05-24-2022, 09:53 AM

The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006

Here's the truth. Drew Brees doubters and naysayers were just as passionate in 2006 as the ones who cast doubts about Jameis Winston today.

KYLE T. MOSLEY 1 HOUR AGO

Most Saints fans, some media, and podcasters were too young to recall Drew Brees signing with the team, let alone the negative commentary hurled at the future Hall of Famer.

For most who have "thrown shade" at Winston, it's another example of "convenient amnesia."

Let's be honest, Drew Brees was shown the door in San Diego by a front office executive that the Mannings strategically maneuvered a No. 1 draft pick from the Chargers to swap with the Giants, and the rest is history. Eli wins two Super Bowl rings, Rivers none.

Back to Brees and Winston

Brees was called "hot garbage" because of his injured shoulder. He proved his naysayers wrong through his grit, passion, and excellence in this profession — also a little help from Dr. James Andrews repairing his shoulder.

For everyone who says "Winston Sucks" because of his poor numbers, let's examine.

It took Drew Brees nine seasons before he reached a Super Bowl. Jameis Winston is entering year No. 8. Perhaps, Winston's negative commentary for his dreadful 30 interceptions is somewhat deserving, but the Bucs' offensive was mediocre at best. After seven years in the NFL, Brees had 88 interceptions compared to Winston's 91. Let it sink in.

The same goes for Winston. Jameis sat for a season to rehabilitate his career from a season of greatness and hell. The focus on his 30-30 found plenty wanting to drive him out of Tampa like he was Frankenstein being ousted from the village. (Watch the movie or read the book.) Besides the 30 horrid interceptions, his 5,109 passing yards and 33 touchdowns were impressive for an NFL quarterback in his fifth season.

Here's the bottom line. Jameis ain't Drew and Brees ain't Winston. I think I said that correctly, but let's move on to reality. New Orleans set up Winston for success in 2022. He and every team will have question marks. How will the offensive line protect him? Can Winston gel with Thomas, Landry, and Olave? Will Alvin Kamara be available? What will his relationship be like with Dennis Allen and Pete Carmichael Jr.?

Albeit, the truth lies within the decision-making. Brees tossed 79 interceptions in his first five seasons with New Orleans. In 2006, he deserved to get a pass by winning the Lombardi Trophy — but he was a turnover magnet at times.

Fans and coaches shouldn't be too quick to judge and give Winston the hook this season should he hit a rough patch. Good quarterbacks rise out of dark situations. Great quarterbacks excel through adversity and claim victory with their performances in crunch time. Given a chance, Winston will have that opportunity.

Can it happen?

We shall see.

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AsylumGuido · 05-24-2022, 10:14 AM

SmashMouth · 05-24-2022, 12:20 PM

I think most of us have been echoing this for a while now. We all saw a glimpse last year. He has a chance to do something special this year. One thing is self-evident, he's matured as a person and a player if one compares his behavior from the early part of his career.

K Major · 05-24-2022, 12:24 PM

Michael Thomas (hopefully he's healthy in 2022), Landry, Callaway, Harty & Olave & a mauler LT in Trevor P...

Coach Dennis Allen has definitely surrounded Winston with the talent to succeed in 2022.

This season is going to be nuts !

AsylumGuido · 05-24-2022, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I think most of us have been echoing this for a while now. We all saw a glimpse last year. He has a chance to do something special this year. One thing is self-evident, he's matured as a person and a player if one compares his behavior from the early part of his career.

One would think it is self-evident, but there are still some that still either define him purely off his college and early professional demeaner or off that one season under "No Risk It, No Biscuit" Arians.

SmashMouth · 05-24-2022, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Michael Thomas (hopefully he's healthy in 2022), Landry, Callaway, Harty & Olave & a mauler LT in Trevor P...

Coach Dennis Allen has definitely surrounded Winston with the talent to succeed in 2022.

This season is going to be nuts !

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

One would think it is self-evident, but there are still some that still either define him purely off his college and early professional demeaner or off that one season under "No Risk It, No Biscuit" Arians.

One could argue the best talents Jamay has ever had surrounding him, including his days at Fla St. Arians never gave the beef up front like he did for Pretty TB.

AsylumGuido · 05-24-2022, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

One could argue the best talents Jamay has ever had surrounding him, including his days at Fla St. Arians never gave the beef up front like he did for Pretty TB.

It's not only the offensive talent around him now. His last two seasons with Tampa Bay he had the 31st (2018 - 29.0/g) and 29th (2019 - 28.1/g) ranked scoring defense in the NFL "supporting" him. The Saints should easily be ranked as a top five defense this coming season.

iceshack149 · 05-24-2022, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

One could argue the best talents Jamay has ever had surrounding him, including his days at Fla St. Arians never gave the beef up front like he did for Pretty TB.

I think Brady has been the GM over the last two years.

AsylumGuido · 05-24-2022, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I think Brady has been the GM over the last two years.

And the offensive coordinator.

Lord_Saint83 · 05-24-2022, 06:02 PM

Jameis with those weapons will be just fine. I have faith in him

05-24-2022, 09:53 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 Here's the truth. Drew Brees doubters and naysayers were just as passionate in 2006 as the ones who cast doubts about Jameis Winston today. KYLE T. MOSLEY 1 HOUR AGO Most Saints fans, some media, and podcasters were too young to recall Drew Brees signing with the team, let alone the negative commentary hurled at the future Hall of Famer. For most who have "thrown shade" at Winston, it's another example of "convenient amnesia." Let's be honest, Drew Brees was shown the door in San Diego by a front office executive that the Mannings strategically maneuvered a No. 1 draft pick from the Chargers to swap with the Giants, and the rest is history. Eli wins two Super Bowl rings, Rivers none. Twitter Back to Brees and Winston Brees was called "hot garbage" because of his injured shoulder. He proved his naysayers wrong through his grit, passion, and excellence in this profession — also a little help from Dr. James Andrews repairing his shoulder. For everyone who says "Winston Sucks" because of his poor numbers, let's examine. It took Drew Brees nine seasons before he reached a Super Bowl. Jameis Winston is entering year No. 8. Perhaps, Winston's negative commentary for his dreadful 30 interceptions is somewhat deserving, but the Bucs' offensive was mediocre at best. After seven years in the NFL, Brees had 88 interceptions compared to Winston's 91. Let it sink in. The same goes for Winston. Jameis sat for a season to rehabilitate his career from a season of greatness and hell. The focus on his 30-30 found plenty wanting to drive him out of Tampa like he was Frankenstein being ousted from the village. (Watch the movie or read the book.) Besides the 30 horrid interceptions, his 5,109 passing yards and 33 touchdowns were impressive for an NFL quarterback in his fifth season. Here's the bottom line. Jameis ain't Drew and Brees ain't Winston. I think I said that correctly, but let's move on to reality. New Orleans set up Winston for success in 2022. He and every team will have question marks. How will the offensive line protect him? Can Winston gel with Thomas, Landry, and Olave? Will Alvin Kamara be available? What will his relationship be like with Dennis Allen and Pete Carmichael Jr.? Albeit, the truth lies within the decision-making. Brees tossed 79 interceptions in his first five seasons with New Orleans. In 2006, he deserved to get a pass by winning the Lombardi Trophy — but he was a turnover magnet at times. Fans and coaches shouldn't be too quick to judge and give Winston the hook this season should he hit a rough patch. Good quarterbacks rise out of dark situations. Great quarterbacks excel through adversity and claim victory with their performances in crunch time. Given a chance, Winston will have that opportunity. Can it happen? We shall see. Crusader and SmashMouth like this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 I think most of us have been echoing this for a while now. We all saw a glimpse last year. He has a chance to do something special this year. One thing is self-evident, he's matured as a person and a player if one compares his behavior from the early part of his career. iceshack149, MatthewT, Crusader and 4 others like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 Originally Posted by SmashMouth I think most of us have been echoing this for a while now. We all saw a glimpse last year. He has a chance to do something special this year. One thing is self-evident, he's matured as a person and a player if one compares his behavior from the early part of his career. One would think it is self-evident, but there are still some that still either define him purely off his college and early professional demeaner or off that one season under "No Risk It, No Biscuit" Arians.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 Originally Posted by K Major Michael Thomas (hopefully he's healthy in 2022), Landry, Callaway, Harty & Olave & a mauler LT in Trevor P... Coach Dennis Allen has definitely surrounded Winston with the talent to succeed in 2022. This season is going to be nuts ! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido One would think it is self-evident, but there are still some that still either define him purely off his college and early professional demeaner or off that one season under "No Risk It, No Biscuit" Arians. One could argue the best talents Jamay has ever had surrounding him, including his days at Fla St. Arians never gave the beef up front like he did for Pretty TB. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 Originally Posted by SmashMouth One could argue the best talents Jamay has ever had surrounding him, including his days at Fla St. Arians never gave the beef up front like he did for Pretty TB. It's not only the offensive talent around him now. His last two seasons with Tampa Bay he had the 31st (2018 - 29.0/g) and 29th (2019 - 28.1/g) ranked scoring defense in the NFL "supporting" him. The Saints should easily be ranked as a top five defense this coming season. SmashMouth, cmike and darksoul35 like this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 Originally Posted by SmashMouth One could argue the best talents Jamay has ever had surrounding him, including his days at Fla St. Arians never gave the beef up front like he did for Pretty TB. I think Brady has been the GM over the last two years. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 Originally Posted by iceshack149 I think Brady has been the GM over the last two years. And the offensive coordinator.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: The Jameis Winston Doubters Parallel the Drew Brees Doubters of 2006 Jameis with those weapons will be just fine. I have faith in him AsylumGuido and darksoul35 like this.