Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal

SmashMouth · 06-03-2022, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Peat can't stay healthy & Ruiz is in year #3. If Dougie M can't get this guy (Cesar) to improve on Sundays, huge red flag. The thinking by most GM's & scouts is that offensive linemen taken in the 1st rd are expected to be good. He'd probably be done as a Saint if not under contract & draft status.

Regardless, sink or swim time at the guard position.

We could've signed La'El Collins a second time... but didn't, FWIW.

K Major · 06-03-2022, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

We could've signed La'El Collins a second time... but didn't, FWIW.

He had no interest (Free Agent) in playing for New Orleans & he's just as injury prone as Peat.

SmashMouth · 06-03-2022, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

He had no interest (Free Agent) in playing for New Orleans & he's just as injury prone as Peat.

Same diet, I suppose? Mebbe that's why Dallas let him walk.

K Major · 06-03-2022, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Same diet, I suppose? Mebbe that's why Dallas let him walk.

halloween 65 · 06-03-2022, 06:19 PM

3 year deal. Someone liked what they saw.

Rugby Saint II · 06-04-2022, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

3 year deal. Someone liked what they saw.

I think the CBA gives all UDFA's a thrre year deal. I read that on the other Saints board and it was repeated and confirmed by a couple of posters.

SmashMouth · 06-06-2022, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Peat can't stay healthy & Ruiz is in year #3. If Dougie M can't get this guy (Cesar) to improve on Sundays, huge red flag. The thinking by most GM's & scouts is that offensive linemen taken in the 1st rd are expected to be good. He'd probably be done as a Saint if not under contract & draft status.

Regardless, sink or swim time at the guard position.

Underhill seems to be hyping his coming through in year three...

Maybe Ruiz is friends with Mark Ingram.

AsylumGuido · 06-06-2022, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Underhill seems to be hyping his coming through in year three...

Maybe Ruiz is friends with Mark Ingram.

I have pointed much of this out this before, but I feel it all bears repeating.

In his first season with the Saints (2020) Ruiz was converted from the position he played in all 26 of his starts his last two seasons at Michigan, center, to a new position, right guard. In this first season the off-season was totally eliminated due to COVID restrictions.

In his second season with the Saints (2021) the offseason, while existent, was still much more limited in nature than the normal NFL off-season. After the first game the season I am not sure that Ruiz played more than a couple of games with both McCoy and Ramczyk in the game at the same time on either side. Ruiz was moved from right guard to center for the second game with Throckmorton coming in at guard. McCoy didn't return to center until the Seattle game in week seven allowing Ruiz to move back to the position of right guard.

We all know that more than any other player grouping the offensive line plays as a unit depending upon each other. The whole offensive line was in total flux throughout the entirety of the 2021 season. To solely judge Ruiz on either of those first two seasons is at worst unfair, and at least misleading. I would dare say that the great Jahri Evans would have likely had issues entering the league under the exact same conditions. I'm not saying Ruiz could ever be another Evans, but I can say that Ruiz has yet to have a fair shake as compared to any other player coming into the league at any other time under normal circumstances.

saintsfan1976 · 06-06-2022, 02:26 PM

Let's face it. the 2020 Draft was crap.

AsylumGuido · 06-06-2022, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Let's face it. the 2020 Draft was crap.

How can you accurately judge any draft until, let's say, four years out? Could it be crap? Sure.

06-03-2022, 03:59 PM	#11
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by K Major Peat can't stay healthy & Ruiz is in year #3. If Dougie M can't get this guy (Cesar) to improve on Sundays, huge red flag. The thinking by most GM's & scouts is that offensive linemen taken in the 1st rd are expected to be good. He'd probably be done as a Saint if not under contract & draft status. Regardless, sink or swim time at the guard position. We could've signed La'El Collins a second time... but didn't, FWIW. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-03-2022, 04:14 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth We could've signed La'El Collins a second time... but didn't, FWIW. He had no interest (Free Agent) in playing for New Orleans & he's just as injury prone as Peat. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-03-2022, 04:53 PM	#13
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by K Major He had no interest (Free Agent) in playing for New Orleans & he's just as injury prone as Peat. Same diet, I suppose? Mebbe that's why Dallas let him walk. K Major likes this.

06-03-2022, 04:58 PM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth Same diet, I suppose? Mebbe that's why Dallas let him walk. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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06-06-2022, 12:16 PM	#17
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by K Major Peat can't stay healthy & Ruiz is in year #3. If Dougie M can't get this guy (Cesar) to improve on Sundays, huge red flag. The thinking by most GM's & scouts is that offensive linemen taken in the 1st rd are expected to be good. He'd probably be done as a Saint if not under contract & draft status. Regardless, sink or swim time at the guard position. Underhill seems to be hyping his coming through in year three... Maybe Ruiz is friends with Mark Ingram.

06-06-2022, 01:25 PM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by SmashMouth Underhill seems to be hyping his coming through in year three... Maybe Ruiz is friends with Mark Ingram. I have pointed much of this out this before, but I feel it all bears repeating. In his first season with the Saints (2020) Ruiz was converted from the position he played in all 26 of his starts his last two seasons at Michigan, center, to a new position, right guard. In this first season the off-season was totally eliminated due to COVID restrictions. In his second season with the Saints (2021) the offseason, while existent, was still much more limited in nature than the normal NFL off-season. After the first game the season I am not sure that Ruiz played more than a couple of games with both McCoy and Ramczyk in the game at the same time on either side. Ruiz was moved from right guard to center for the second game with Throckmorton coming in at guard. McCoy didn't return to center until the Seattle game in week seven allowing Ruiz to move back to the position of right guard. We all know that more than any other player grouping the offensive line plays as a unit depending upon each other. The whole offensive line was in total flux throughout the entirety of the 2021 season. To solely judge Ruiz on either of those first two seasons is at worst unfair, and at least misleading. I would dare say that the great Jahri Evans would have likely had issues entering the league under the exact same conditions. I'm not saying Ruiz could ever be another Evans, but I can say that Ruiz has yet to have a fair shake as compared to any other player coming into the league at any other time under normal circumstances.
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06-06-2022, 02:26 PM	#19
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Let's face it. the 2020 Draft was crap. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

06-06-2022, 02:33 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Let's face it. the 2020 Draft was crap. How can you accurately judge any draft until, let's say, four years out? Could it be crap? Sure.