Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal

AsylumGuido · 06-07-2022, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

If you're going to blame Ruiz's performance on Covid how do you explain how many of his draft peers flourished?

Take as much time as you need Guido but IMO we'll need a 180 from those left on the roster to be even a somewhat successful draft (net 3 players).

Last thing I'll ask on Tommy - how many players who were traded UP for didn't make it through training camp in their FIRST season

I'm not sure. How many of them were offensive lineman switched to a completely different position than they played regularly in college? And how many of those linemen had to shift positions multiple times during their second season? And how many of those linemen had every other lineman on their squad miss significant time to injury? How well did they flourish?

As for a successful draft, I have commonly heard that getting two or three starters is considered a successful draft. Regardless of how you feel about Ruiz and Trautman they are both starters.

Once again, I'm not saying that Ruiz will definitely be a success, but in all honesty one would have to admit that the circumstances (which appear to be unique to his situation) have made it impossible to fairly judge his potential to date. Now if he stinks it up this season I'll take the seat right beside you on the bandwagon.

saintsfan1976 · 06-07-2022, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm not sure. How many of them were offensive lineman switched to a completely different position than they played regularly in college? And how many of those linemen had to shift positions multiple times during their second season? And how many of those linemen had every other lineman on their squad miss significant time to injury? How well did they flourish?

As for a successful draft, I have commonly heard that getting two or three starters is considered a successful draft. Regardless of how you feel about Ruiz and Trautman they are both starters.

Once again, I'm not saying that Ruiz will definitely be a success, but in all honesty one would have to admit that the circumstances (which appear to be unique to his situation) have made it impossible to fairly judge his potential to date. Now if he stinks it up this season I'll take the seat right beside you on the bandwagon.

Excuses. That's all I hear.

Three quality starters would be a decent draft unless you gave away oh, I don't know, SIX DRAFT PICKS for THREE guys we're still not sure will be here next season...

AsylumGuido · 06-07-2022, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Excuses. That's all I hear.

Three quality starters would be a decent draft unless you gave away oh, I don't know, SIX DRAFT PICKS for THREE guys we're still not sure will be here next season...

Patience, my friend, is a virtue. What's going to happen will happen. We'll see the eventual outcome when it gets here. I'd rather not stress over it now. Hell, I'll not even stress over it regardless. Life is too short.

saintsfan1976 · 06-07-2022, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Patience, my friend, is a virtue. What's going to happen will happen. We'll see the eventual outcome when it gets here. I'd rather not stress over it now. Hell, I'll not even stress over it regardless. Life is too short.

You go be virtuous Grasshopper. I'm sure the millions of dollars and draft capital invested don't change anything in the franchise's view either....

AsylumGuido · 06-07-2022, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You go be virtuous Grasshopper. I'm sure the millions of dollars and draft capital invested don't change anything in the franchise's view either....

Likely not. Fans (and talking heads) are far more concerned with spent picks than any GM. Some work out some don't. It's all part of the business. C'est la vie.

Boston Saint · 06-07-2022, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Likely not. Fans (and talking heads) are far more concerned with spent picks than any GM. Some work out some don't. It's all part of the business. C'est la vie.

The GMs that don’t worry about how draft picks work out aren’t employed for
long.

jeanpierre · 06-07-2022, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The GMs that don’t worry about how draft picks work out aren’t employed for
long.

Or they have tenure with their franchises and the owner enjoys not having to be burdened with day to day franchise operations and genuinely are content with on-field results...

06-07-2022, 08:40 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 If you're going to blame Ruiz's performance on Covid how do you explain how many of his draft peers flourished? Take as much time as you need Guido but IMO we'll need a 180 from those left on the roster to be even a somewhat successful draft (net 3 players). Last thing I'll ask on Tommy - how many players who were traded UP for didn't make it through training camp in their FIRST season I'm not sure. How many of them were offensive lineman switched to a completely different position than they played regularly in college? And how many of those linemen had to shift positions multiple times during their second season? And how many of those linemen had every other lineman on their squad miss significant time to injury? How well did they flourish? As for a successful draft, I have commonly heard that getting two or three starters is considered a successful draft. Regardless of how you feel about Ruiz and Trautman they are both starters. Once again, I'm not saying that Ruiz will definitely be a success, but in all honesty one would have to admit that the circumstances (which appear to be unique to his situation) have made it impossible to fairly judge his potential to date. Now if he stinks it up this season I'll take the seat right beside you on the bandwagon.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

06-07-2022, 04:05 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm not sure. How many of them were offensive lineman switched to a completely different position than they played regularly in college? And how many of those linemen had to shift positions multiple times during their second season? And how many of those linemen had every other lineman on their squad miss significant time to injury? How well did they flourish? As for a successful draft, I have commonly heard that getting two or three starters is considered a successful draft. Regardless of how you feel about Ruiz and Trautman they are both starters. Once again, I'm not saying that Ruiz will definitely be a success, but in all honesty one would have to admit that the circumstances (which appear to be unique to his situation) have made it impossible to fairly judge his potential to date. Now if he stinks it up this season I'll take the seat right beside you on the bandwagon. Excuses. That's all I hear. Three quality starters would be a decent draft unless you gave away oh, I don't know, SIX DRAFT PICKS for THREE guys we're still not sure will be here next season... iceshack149, K Major and Boston Saint like this.

06-07-2022, 04:12 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Excuses. That's all I hear. Three quality starters would be a decent draft unless you gave away oh, I don't know, SIX DRAFT PICKS for THREE guys we're still not sure will be here next season... Patience, my friend, is a virtue. What's going to happen will happen. We'll see the eventual outcome when it gets here. I'd rather not stress over it now. Hell, I'll not even stress over it regardless. Life is too short.

06-07-2022, 04:43 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Patience, my friend, is a virtue. What's going to happen will happen. We'll see the eventual outcome when it gets here. I'd rather not stress over it now. Hell, I'll not even stress over it regardless. Life is too short. You go be virtuous Grasshopper. I'm sure the millions of dollars and draft capital invested don't change anything in the franchise's view either.... AsylumGuido, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

06-07-2022, 05:44 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You go be virtuous Grasshopper. I'm sure the millions of dollars and draft capital invested don't change anything in the franchise's view either.... Likely not. Fans (and talking heads) are far more concerned with spent picks than any GM. Some work out some don't. It's all part of the business. C'est la vie.

06-07-2022, 07:12 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Likely not. Fans (and talking heads) are far more concerned with spent picks than any GM. Some work out some don't. It's all part of the business. C'est la vie. The GMs that don’t worry about how draft picks work out aren’t employed for long. iceshack149 likes this.

06-07-2022, 07:35 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints sign UDFA OL Khalique Washington to 3-year deal Originally Posted by Boston Saint The GMs that don’t worry about how draft picks work out aren’t employed for long. Or they have tenure with their franchises and the owner enjoys not having to be burdened with day to day franchise operations and genuinely are content with on-field results... AsylumGuido likes this.