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jeanpierre 06-09-2022 11:10 AM
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K Major 06-09-2022 11:33 AM
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WR battles will be the ones I'm most interested in, then RB.

Side note the kid from Weber St ... Rashid Shaheed -89. His college tape on kickoffs/punts is electric. Game changer.

Deonte' Harty 2.0?

SmashMouth 06-09-2022 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 953286)
WR battles will be the ones I'm most interested in, then RB.

Side note the kid from Weber St ... Rashid Shaheed -89. His college tape on kickoffs/punts is electric. Game changer.

Deonte' Harty 2.0?
TE and OL, G specifically for me. I think we already have an idea of who's going to make the team at WR. Although we do have some sleepers as UDFA WRs.

:bng:

K Major 06-09-2022 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953290)
TE and OL, G specifically for me. I think we already have an idea of who's going to make the team at WR. Although we do have some sleepers as UDFA WRs.

:bng:
IIRC, JP has the big guy from Nicholls making the team, while your buddy Trequan gets cut ;).

Who is your surprise (if any) WR from the bunch?

As for the O line, if Trevor P has some struggles early on would you insert James Hurst @ LT until the rookie gets his technique down?

K Major 06-09-2022 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953290)
TE and OL, G specifically for me. I think we already have an idea of who's going to make the team at WR. Although we do have some sleepers as UDFA WRs.

:bng:
Duplicate post ...

My apologies.

Boston Saint 06-09-2022 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 953298)
Duplicate post ...

My apologies.
It was a question worth asking twice !!😝

iceshack149 06-09-2022 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 953286)
WR battles will be the ones I'm most interested in, then RB.

Side note the kid from Weber St ... Rashid Shaheed -89. His college tape on kickoffs/punts is electric. Game changer.

Deonte' Harty 2.0?
Seems like Dai'Jean Dixon has impressed local beat writers. I'd guess he makes IR for the year.

SmashMouth 06-09-2022 04:06 PM
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SmashMouth 06-09-2022 04:09 PM
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SmashMouth 06-09-2022 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 953286)
WR battles will be the ones I'm most interested in, then RB.

Side note the kid from Weber St ... Rashid Shaheed -89. His college tape on kickoffs/punts is electric. Game changer.

Deonte' Harty 2.0?
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 953297)
IIRC, JP has the big guy from Nicholls making the team, while your buddy Trequan gets cut ;).

Who is your surprise (if any) WR from the bunch?

As for the O line, if Trevor P has some struggles early on would you insert James Hurst @ LT until the rookie gets his technique down?
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 953301)
Seems like Dai'Jean Dixon has impressed local beat writers. I'd guess he makes IR for the year.
WR Kirk Merritt impressed recently.

jeanpierre 06-09-2022 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 953297)
IIRC, JP has the big guy from Nicholls making the team, while your buddy Trequan gets cut ;).

Who is your surprise (if any) WR from the bunch?

As for the O line, if Trevor P has some struggles early on would you insert James Hurst @ LT until the rookie gets his technique down?
Dai'Jean Dixon is being strongly compared to Marques Colston already, but it's that time of the year so temper expectations; and we'll know the truth when contact starts...

In so far as Penning, start him and leave him in there, allow him to make mistakes so long as he improves; Olave and Penning were drafted first round, start them...

AsylumGuido 06-10-2022 08:28 AM
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AsylumGuido 06-10-2022 08:29 AM
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K Major 06-10-2022 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 953334)
[B]Dai'Jean Dixon is being strongly compared to Marques Colston already, but it's that time of the year so temper expectations; and we'll know the truth when contact starts...
Precisely. Remember camp legend Emmanuel Butler from a few seasons ago?

But good luck to these younger guys. Lots of competition in the building :bng:

jeanpierre 06-10-2022 10:31 AM
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Boston Saint 06-10-2022 11:27 AM
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So, Winston is back practicing after tearing his knee 8 months ago. Thomas is not back practicing because of an ankle injury suffered about 16 months ago. Ok…..

jeanpierre 06-10-2022 11:42 AM
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So, Winston is back practicing after tearing his knee 8 months ago. Thomas is not back practicing because of an ankle injury suffered about 16 months ago. Ok…..
HIPPA laws are in effect for NFL players, as they should be, until regular season games start and the privacy waiver in NFL contracts allows public disclosure for Injury Reports...

No question the delay to have the surgery was a head scratcher, but ankles actually have more tendons, ligaments and muscles involved than a knee injury...

Then of course there are infections and other set backs...

Feel the frustration, but the ankle injury has more moving parts than a knee - not that a torn ACL or MCL is a walk in the park...

Committing that much salary cap to one player is always a big risk, but he was playing at an elite level and the worst case scenario unfolded...

Let's see what unfolds throughout training camp and when teams start disclosing injury reports, we may get more details...

Boston Saint 06-10-2022 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 953360)
HIPPA laws are in effect for NFL players, as they should be, until regular season games start and the privacy waiver in NFL contracts allows public disclosure for Injury Reports...

No question the delay to have the surgery was a head scratcher, but ankles actually have more tendons, ligaments and muscles involved than a knee injury...

Then of course there are infections and other set backs...

Feel the frustration, but the ankle injury has more moving parts than a knee - not that a torn ACL or MCL is a walk in the park...

Committing that much salary cap to one player is always a big risk, but he was playing at an elite level and the worst case scenario unfolded...

Let's see what unfolds throughout training camp and when teams start disclosing injury reports, we may get more details...
Pardon my French JP…sounds like BS excuses. I Have had three knee surgeries and two ankle surgeries. They are all tough. Just not sure Thomas is.

jeanpierre 06-10-2022 03:36 PM
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Pardon my French JP…sounds like BS excuses. I Have had three knee surgeries and two ankle surgeries. They are all tough. Just not sure Thomas is.
And Boston, I'm just saying we don't know specific details of his injury, subsequent infections, et al...

Not every case is the same - and if I didn't make it clear before, the GM in me is really frustrated we've got that much cap space committed to a player that's on the bench...

AsylumGuido 06-10-2022 04:05 PM
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HIPPA laws do not apply to the team relaying information on a player's health. HIPPA applies directly to health insurance and medical providers sharing information.

AsylumGuido 06-10-2022 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953365)
Pardon my French JP…sounds like BS excuses. I Have had three knee surgeries and two ankle surgeries. They are all tough. Just not sure Thomas is.
I'd be willing to bet Mr. Thomas is every bit as tough as you, Boston. :D

But JP is absolutely right. All we know is that there was reportedly a complication in the original recovery that required a secondary surgery sometime around this past November. That's sounds quite a bit like some sort of infection or a slight tear during recovery. This type of stuff happens. A new timetable would be in effect.

Rugby Saint II 06-10-2022 04:17 PM
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Pardon my French JP…sounds like BS excuses. I Have had three knee surgeries and two ankle surgeries. They are all tough. Just not sure Thomas is.
I just had my right ankle replaced and started walking on it yesterday. Oh, the marvel of modern science....

Boston Saint 06-10-2022 04:18 PM
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And Boston, and I'm just saying we don't know specific details of his injury, subsequent infections, et al...

Not every case is the same - and if I didn't make it clear before, the GM in me is really frustrated we've got that much cap space committed to a player that's on the bench...
Specifics of the injuries aside, if you don’t see a difference in the way the two players and their camps have handled things then we aren’t gonna see things eye to eye. Winston has been open, communicative, enthusiastic and successful thus far in his rehab. Thomas has been the exact opposite of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the reason Payton retired is he didn’t want to deal with the grief of his star diva WRs rehab and the hassle of his star RBs assault allegations.

All that said I hope Thomas played like he did in his record setting season and proves me wrong. Nothing would make me happier.

jeanpierre 06-10-2022 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 953373)
I just had my right ankle replaced and started walking on it yesterday. Oh, the marvel of modern science....
Praying for your recovery, Rugs...

Curious did you one of those six million dollar man ankles? That would be bad-arse...

Maybe Thomas could use a bionic ankle? could you imagine what his cuts would be like then?

Rugby Saint II 06-10-2022 04:37 PM
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Praying for your recovery, Rugs...

Curious did you one of those six million dollar man ankles? That would be bad-arse...

Maybe Thomas could use a bionic ankle? could you imagine what his cuts would be like then?
Yep. I got a bionic ankle. I'm ready to come out of rugby retirement at 63. I'll pull a Favre and Brady comeback. Although, I'll probably run in circles with only one bionic ankle.

Edit: Thanks for the prayers.

jeanpierre 06-12-2022 12:18 AM
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SmashMouth 06-12-2022 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 953373)
I just had my right ankle replaced and started walking on it yesterday. Oh, the marvel of modern science....
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 953384)
Yep. I got a bionic ankle. I'm ready to come out of rugby retirement at 63. I'll pull a Favre and Brady comeback. Although, I'll probably run in circles with only one bionic ankle.

Edit: Thanks for the prayers.
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 953379)
Praying for your recovery, Rugs...

Curious did you one of those six million dollar man ankles? That would be bad-arse...

Maybe Thomas could use a bionic ankle? could you imagine what his cuts would be like then?

https://c.tenor.com/-o_RyeFSQ0MAAAAd...dollar-man.gif

SmashMouth 06-12-2022 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953374)
Specifics of the injuries aside, if you don’t see a difference in the way the two players and their camps have handled things then we aren’t gonna see things eye to eye. Winston has been open, communicative, enthusiastic and successful thus far in his rehab. Thomas has been the exact opposite of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the reason Payton retired is he didn’t want to deal with the grief of his star diva WRs rehab and the hassle of his star RBs assault allegations.

All that said I hope Thomas played like he did in his record setting season and proves me wrong. Nothing would make me happier.
MT did play through the injury when maybe he shouldn't have. With the eff up from the doctors, one never knows. They don't have enough Dr. Andrews.

SmashMouth 06-12-2022 09:01 AM
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SmashMouth 06-12-2022 09:02 AM
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SmashMouth 06-12-2022 09:07 AM
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SmashMouth 06-12-2022 09:09 AM
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SmashMouth 06-12-2022 09:12 AM
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AsylumGuido 06-12-2022 11:57 AM
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AsylumGuido 06-12-2022 01:55 PM
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AsylumGuido 06-13-2022 08:30 AM
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SmashMouth 06-13-2022 11:49 AM
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SmashMouth 06-13-2022 11:50 AM
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SmashMouth 06-13-2022 11:51 AM
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Rugby Saint II 06-13-2022 11:52 AM
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You're obviously a man of few words! :p


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