Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints

01-11-2024, 07:51 AM

Playing football in the NFL for all of these guys who are superior athletes is about want to. How bad do they want it? How much are they willing to work at it? In the NFL everybody is strong. Everybody has talent. You just have to want it at least as much as the next guy. For offensive linemen, I had rather have a mean SOB with less physical attributes who wants it than someone who hits all the measurables. I don't think Penning has the want to.

Cruize · 01-11-2024, 08:53 AM

A guy like Hurst for example. Doesn't have the physical attributes of Penning. But, he's started a ton of games at different positions for the Saints and has played well. Why? He wants it.

saintsfan1976 · 01-11-2024, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

A guy like Hurst for example. Doesn't have the physical attributes of Penning. But, he's started a ton of games at different positions for the Saints and has played well. Why? He wants it.

Hurst strikes me as a very cerebral player.

Penning strikes me as a small school boy wonder who just encountered professional grown as$ men.

K Major · 01-11-2024, 11:42 AM

I'd like to see a former player and/or analyst breakdown Trevor's complete body of work thus far.

From my untrained eye, the man is just slow to move his feet & resorts to tripping defenders, subsequent flag. Why not try to move him inside (G)?

To be a former 1st rounder, you simply expect him to be better at this stage of his career. Just look at Bears rookie tackle Darnell Wright ... he's had solid showings against very good pass rushers (Crosby, Hunter, Chris Jones etc).

Loomis can't keep holding on to these "injury" excuses. Saints better figure it out this off season.

Penning's regression has been baffling.

MatthewT · 01-11-2024, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd like to see a former player and/or analyst breakdown Trevor's complete body of work thus far.

From my untrained eye, the man is just slow to move his feet & resorts to tripping defenders, subsequent flag. Why not try to move him inside (G)?

To be a former 1st rounder, you simply expect him to be better at this stage of his career. Just look at Bears rookie tackle Darnell Wright ... he's had solid showings against very good pass rushers (Crosby, Hunter, Chris Jones etc).

Loomis can't keep holding on to these "injury" excuses. Saints better figure it out this off season.

Penning's regression has been baffling.

I personally think he will be moved inside to see if they can anything out of him and maybe later try him again on the outside. I am not convinced moving him inside will work because I would have to think it would have been tried during the season when those injuries started hitting.

neugey · 01-11-2024, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I personally think he will be moved inside to see if they can anything out of him and maybe later try him again on the outside. I am not convinced moving him inside will work because I would have to think it would have been tried during the season when those injuries started hitting.

There is this view that if a player isn't athletic or moving quickly enough at tackle that moving to guard is the solution. IMO I don't think it gets any easier and if anything it gets more challenging. In pass blocking you're going to have to recognize more stunts and get in position better. In run blocking you'll have to pull and lead a fair amount. Playing guard is far from being a traffic cone.

Rugby Saint II · 01-11-2024, 12:50 PM

Ireland or his scouts suggested him as a viable prospect. I want to know who ****ed up? Was it Ireland, Loomis or DA? Contrary to popular beliefs we don't draft well. Especially in the early rounds.

saintsfan1976 · 01-12-2024, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

There is this view that if a player isn't athletic or moving quickly enough at tackle that moving to guard is the solution. IMO I don't think it gets any easier and if anything it gets more challenging. In pass blocking you're going to have to recognize more stunts and get in position better. In run blocking you'll have to pull and lead a fair amount. Playing guard is far from being a traffic cone.

So he's a fullback

K Major · 01-12-2024, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Penning strikes me as a small school boy wonder who just encountered professional grown as$ men.

Do you think that benching may have destroyed his confidence?

I'm not trying to defend TP, but I'd like to see someone else other than Doug Marrone work with him in 2024.

Cruize · 01-12-2024, 12:10 PM

I would like to see the Saints never draft a guy over 6'4" on the oline. They have trouble bending and where they get beat is defenders getting under their pads.

01-11-2024, 07:51 AM	#21
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01-11-2024, 08:53 AM	#22
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,295	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints A guy like Hurst for example. Doesn't have the physical attributes of Penning. But, he's started a ton of games at different positions for the Saints and has played well. Why? He wants it.
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01-11-2024, 10:46 AM	#23
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,540 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Cruize A guy like Hurst for example. Doesn't have the physical attributes of Penning. But, he's started a ton of games at different positions for the Saints and has played well. Why? He wants it. Hurst strikes me as a very cerebral player. Penning strikes me as a small school boy wonder who just encountered professional grown as$ men. K Major likes this.

01-11-2024, 11:42 AM	#24
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints I'd like to see a former player and/or analyst breakdown Trevor's complete body of work thus far. From my untrained eye, the man is just slow to move his feet & resorts to tripping defenders, subsequent flag. Why not try to move him inside (G)? To be a former 1st rounder, you simply expect him to be better at this stage of his career. Just look at Bears rookie tackle Darnell Wright ... he's had solid showings against very good pass rushers (Crosby, Hunter, Chris Jones etc). Loomis can't keep holding on to these "injury" excuses. Saints better figure it out this off season. Penning's regression has been baffling. MatthewT, saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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01-11-2024, 12:24 PM	#25
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major I'd like to see a former player and/or analyst breakdown Trevor's complete body of work thus far. From my untrained eye, the man is just slow to move his feet & resorts to tripping defenders, subsequent flag. Why not try to move him inside (G)? To be a former 1st rounder, you simply expect him to be better at this stage of his career. Just look at Bears rookie tackle Darnell Wright ... he's had solid showings against very good pass rushers (Crosby, Hunter, Chris Jones etc). Loomis can't keep holding on to these "injury" excuses. Saints better figure it out this off season. Penning's regression has been baffling. I personally think he will be moved inside to see if they can anything out of him and maybe later try him again on the outside. I am not convinced moving him inside will work because I would have to think it would have been tried during the season when those injuries started hitting. neugey likes this.

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01-11-2024, 12:35 PM	#26
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by MatthewT I personally think he will be moved inside to see if they can anything out of him and maybe later try him again on the outside. I am not convinced moving him inside will work because I would have to think it would have been tried during the season when those injuries started hitting. There is this view that if a player isn't athletic or moving quickly enough at tackle that moving to guard is the solution. IMO I don't think it gets any easier and if anything it gets more challenging. In pass blocking you're going to have to recognize more stunts and get in position better. In run blocking you'll have to pull and lead a fair amount. Playing guard is far from being a traffic cone. Danno, MatthewT and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,747	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints Ireland or his scouts suggested him as a viable prospect. I want to know who ****ed up? Was it Ireland, Loomis or DA? Contrary to popular beliefs we don't draft well. Especially in the early rounds. MatthewT likes this.

01-12-2024, 07:31 AM	#28
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,540 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by neugey There is this view that if a player isn't athletic or moving quickly enough at tackle that moving to guard is the solution. IMO I don't think it gets any easier and if anything it gets more challenging. In pass blocking you're going to have to recognize more stunts and get in position better. In run blocking you'll have to pull and lead a fair amount. Playing guard is far from being a traffic cone. So he's a fullback

01-12-2024, 10:10 AM	#29
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Penning strikes me as a small school boy wonder who just encountered professional grown as$ men. Do you think that benching may have destroyed his confidence? I'm not trying to defend TP, but I'd like to see someone else other than Doug Marrone work with him in 2024.

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,295	Re: Trevor Penning leaning into technical aspects of playing offensive tackle with New Orleans Saints I would like to see the Saints never draft a guy over 6'4" on the oline. They have trouble bending and where they get beat is defenders getting under their pads. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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